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1885-O Morgan Dollar Grade Opinion

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It has some wonderful mirrors on both the Obverse & Reverse in hand.
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Depending on how deep it is, that long mark on the cheek might limit it to MS-63PL. Very attractive coin!
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Wow, that is some contrast! Near impossible to judge PL/DMPL via photo, but I will say MS-63+DMPL
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62PL
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I'll say MS-62
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I'm at 62....like others have said "hard to tell PL from Dmpl" from photos, but this one has a good chance
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Nice frosting but not seeing any reflectiveness in the fields from the pictures. Not seeing that many marks to bring it down to 62 though.

EDIT: Forgot to add - I say 63. (Extra point for eye appeal )
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Nice coin. Looks to be PF/DMPL. Marks are magnified on those. I think this is easily a 63 and has a chance at 64. Looks to me like the long mark is a surface mark.
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the 85(O) are normally average strikes. things didnt go down hill until 86 regarding strikes. fairly strong luster on this one with PL surfaces.
lighting is an issue here as I cant really see the depth of marks on the cheek. most look like rub except the longer one, however it does not look deep. the coin is in the MS63/64PL box and I think because of the overall luster it has a really good shot at 64. I cant see why some folks have it at 62 but remember grading is very subjective.
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Nice coin! Decent strike, no major rim damage, and good eye appeal. The obverse has a couple more issues than the reverse. There appears to be a harder ding on the eyebrow and several smaller reeded edge contacts on the nose, cheek, and neck. The frost scuffs look superficial. The reverse has lighter frosting in some areas, and I can't tell from the photos whether the frosting is complete. The mark below and next to the eagle's left wing (our visual right) could be an issue. For sure it looks PL, but from the photos alone I'm not sure on DMPL. That could be judged in hand better than from photos.

All things together, I'm comfortable with at least an MS-63 PL. By itself, the reverse would easily make MS-64. I could see MS-63+ PL net. IMHO, on a bourse floor it would at least be called MS-63 PL and might get a price bump for eye appeal.

Again, nice coin.
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I think it is a solid MS-64 DMPL. Very pretty coin. Here are some to compare at that grade level:
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Clean fields and minimal distractions, I cant see why this wouldnt be a 4. PL/DMPL is hard to say without having the coin in hand but it looks to be PL at a minimum with that contrast.
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Here are the photos before I cropped and played with the brightness. I know they're big.
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and I took some fresh photos today of it with out as much glare, please ignore the blue/yellow stuff on the Obverse and Reverse (It's from my camera)Thanks all for the responses as well.

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I'm still at MS-63PL. Without that gash on the cheek, it would be an easy 64PL. I'm not convinced there is enough mirror to make DMPL, but you can only assess that in hand.
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