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 Posted 05/28/2009  10:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just wondering if it's worth the trouble to track down bank rolls of Unc.2009 dimes and nickels?
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 Posted 05/28/2009  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bill069 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Someone has to be first, why not you! Go for it.
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 Posted 05/28/2009  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good luck with that! I haven't even seen a guarter yet.
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 Posted 05/28/2009  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, someone here got dogpiled for asking $120 a roll for the dimes. http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-P-Roosevel...ly_W0QQitemZ260418189064QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item3ca2223708&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:4|65:1|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:200
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 Posted 05/28/2009  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably be worth putting some away. I read that total coin production for 2009 is supposed to be down 70% over 2008. I don't really see them cutting back on quarters or dollars since they are trying to push the dollars. And lots of hoarders are pulling copper cents out of circulation along with the demand on the '09 cents I don't see them cutting back production on cents..So I was thinking they may cut back on nickels and dimes.
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 Posted 05/28/2009  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rollhunter1994 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another one. It's at 31 dollars with 14 hours left!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-P-Roosevel...OT_W0QQitemZ260417632968QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item3ca219bac8&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1205%7C66:2%7C65:12%7C39:1%7C240:1318%7C301:1%7C293:1%7C294:50
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 Posted 05/28/2009  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope to get a good example or two of each 2009 nickel in GEM BU with full steps. I ordered my proof, but I'll need the satin mint set versions and these difficult circulation coins. That's 5 coins!
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 Posted 05/28/2009  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i am excited about the low mintage dimes and nickels. Even if they are hoarded away its still cool to finally see a coin in your lifetime that circulates with a low mintage
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 Posted 05/28/2009  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scott3270 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it is cool but I really don't think it is a low mintage it's just low compared to the bizillion they usually make
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 Posted 05/29/2009  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2009 issues will not be common but this "rare" hype is just downright pathetic and nothing but blatant profiteering The most current figures I have are 96.5 million Philly dimes and 49.5 million Denver dimes which is anything but rare. As a comparison, the three 1955 dimes each had a mintage less than 19 million, are composed of silver, and probably sustained moderate melting in 1979-1980 just like all other 20th century silver coinage. What are they worth today? About $3 each in MS63.

The nickels are a bit tougher with 39.8 million Phillys and 39.4 million Denvers. As a comparison, 1951P had a mintage of 28.5 million and 1951D had a mintage of 20.5 million. These two have done a bit better than the dimes but are still only worth $5 in MS63 condition.

What does this tell us? Sure, it is a nice idea to try and get the coins for face value from a bank where they will be available eventually because these coins will have a better premium on them than most MS late 20th/early 21st century coinage. However, it makes no sense to pay huge premiums on a coin during a bubble when it could take decades for that inflated price to actually be worthwhile.

One more note on this "rarity" price inflation craze before I close this post, everyone can agree that the 1950-D nickel is certainly not a common coin with a mere 2.6 million minted. In the late 50s/early 60s, rolls of 50-Ds were trading well in excess of $500 What is the current Greysheet ask for a BU roll? A mere $360


Of course, the whole modern coin craze is out of whack right now and IMO is not good for the hobby. Anything modern that has a mintage of millions or tens of millions will never be rare. Classic coins with mintages in the millions did have the potential to become rare due to attrition through their continual use in commerce. Coins are not the economic vehicle that they once were. People buy in at elevated, hyped prices(see HSN, National Collectors Mint, and many ebay auctions) and then a few years down the road, they realize that their "investment" is worth a fraction of what they spent. What happens next? One less collector...


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selling them dirt cheap according to today's market

And that attitude is part of the problem. Today's modern market is not a real market at all, it is nothing more than an overinflated hype bubble(hi late 1990s tech stocks) and I have a problem with taking advantage of someone's lack of education all for the sake of hype and profit. Believe me- the bubble will burst, it will be messy, and alot of people will permanently leave the hobby over it


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I hope the economy recovers, soon! (Well, with slightly weaker dollar)
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everyone can agree that the 1950-D nickel is certainly not a common coin with a mere 2.6 million minted. In the late 50s/early 60s, rolls of 50-Ds were trading well in excess of $500 What is the current Greysheet ask for a BU roll? A mere $360
True, but those people that got them for face value and sold them for $500.00 were the ones doing the laughing!
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The 2009 issues will not be common but this "rare" hype is just downright pathetic and nothing but blatant profiteering


How do you figure? The guy here listed them with a price. Period. The guy on ebay listed them with a low opening bid and the bidders drove it up. It's what the market will bear right now so that's what they sell for.

Just because you think is profiteering doesn't mean it is and what you think certainly doesn't give you the right to blatantly interfere with someone's sales. Try that crap on a real auction or sales site and your account will fold quick or better yet go try it on a live auction floor, they'll give you free silver bracelets.

Bottom line is you owe the guy an apology because he was selling them dirt cheap according to today's market, but I don't think that will be coming any time soon given your attitude.
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 Posted 05/29/2009  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try not to read everything like its in all caps Guys. I dont think bio meant any harm. sometimes you read something that wasnt there to begin with
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I think that biokemist posted in this thread in the hopes of keeping people from making what he sees as a mistake. I'm pretty much a free market guy so I'm not against people selling for what the market will pay but I agree 100% that anyone buying moderns at these prices will lose money in the long run.

Obviously the sale prices on ebay are what the "market" thinks things are worth today. Whether or not there is price inflation remains to be seen. The "market" also thought packages of less than stellar mortgages were worth something a short while ago, & we all know how that turned out.
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 Posted 05/29/2009  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no problem with somebody making money selling a 2009 dime for $49.02. Rather my problem is why? I can think of better ways to spend that much money...Like a proof set that would contain a lower mintage dime or a mint set that would contain a dime (unless the mint is discontinuing those too) or 3 ounces of silver or................
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