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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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 I don't know enough about these...but WOW! No less than EF-45 and AU-50 would not surprise me. Fantastic! smat
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
74189 Posts |
I'll guess EF, nice coin! 
Errers and Varietys.
Edited by Errers and Varietys 06/11/2025 11:47 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
878 Posts |
Very nice example, NS, I'll say EF45!
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Moderator
 United States
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A lovely example! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7034 Posts |
Understandable on how you feel about the reverse....but WOW got to love that obverse....GREAT COIN..... 
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I'm with the others on this one. very nice example of this variety. congrats. I think she has a good shot at AU50
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I also think it goes AU-50. Wonderful coin!
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
11888 Posts |
This one came out of the Peh family collection assembled by a collector based in Singapore. The collection focused mostly on Asian and British colonial coinage. I wasn't aware that he had assembled U.S. coinage but here we are. The coin should come in soon and I will post in-hand photos when I am able. All you sharps seem to be on the ball this week. Thank you for all of your kind comments. 
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
Edited by numismatic student 06/13/2025 1:49 pm
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Moderator
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Excellent! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I thought it was borderline between XF and AU but just felt the rub on the obverse might hold it back. But overall nice eye appeal so maybe that carried it over the line.
Congrats on the acquisition
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
Edited by numismatic student 06/14/2025 10:59 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow much better details in the new photos....reverse looks fine...again great coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Thanks again for all of your kind comments. I was examining this coin more closely and was focusing on the date, it appeared to be overstruck at the nine and the eight. I went to the heritage website and looked up a bunch of the 1798 Small Eagle 15 Stars coins (there is only one 15 Stars variety with 10,000 coins struck) and found some with a similar overdate in the 9, which was faint, but none with the overdate in the last digit in the 8. The 8 appears to be struck over a 3 but there is no 1793 dollar and the 1803 dollar had not been produced yet. The only way this makes sense is if the 3 was punched on the die by mistake and the 8 was punched over it to correct the error. But in this case, there should be other similar examples with these characteristics. In addition, the 7 seems to have a small spur on the top of the digit which I also was unable to find on other coins. If any of you has a Draped Bust reference book, I would appreciate it if you could share whether there is anything in the books written about these characteristics in the BB-81 / B-2. TIA.  I was now thinking that the 8 may be struck over a 5 which would end the bottom curl with a knob inside the lower opening in the 8 as we can see, and the top of the 5 would have a spur which is visible at the top right hand side of the 8. This could also mean that the date was repunched over a left over 1795 Draped Bust obverse die. This seems to make the most sense.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
Edited by numismatic student 06/20/2025 8:54 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I think you mean the year is re-engraved. Overstrike is used to describe when an older coin is used as planchet to be struck as new coin.
A very nice coin by the way!
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