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What do y'all think this grades? It was difficult to photograph due to how dark it is. Thanks!   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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63+
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I'll say MS-63.
Errers and Varietys.
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I'll say MS65 as it does have what seems to be very dark toning on both the Obverse and Reverse. But there doesn't appear to be that many marks on it and the marks it does have seem to mostly be on the Obverse.
On the Obv I only see three gashes that seem to be relatively deep (the one on her upper cheek, one in the hair above the ear and the one in the field at 3 o'clock).
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the obv appears to be almost void of luster. its interesting to note that the 91(P) are almost always pretty weak, this one would be above average for strike but on the low end of eye appeal. some scratches on the neck and a reeding hit on the cheek. I'm thinking the coin was dipped and removed the majority of the original surfaces. when you look at the blowup you can see the darker areas in the obv fields have the same look that occurs when a coin is dipped and not rinsed properly. over-dipping would give the dull look. there's a fine line between a light cleaning that passes and going past that which I think we see here
UNC details (cleaned)
i need to place a disclaimer as I can only assess what I see in the photos
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The obverse die looks like the die used for VAM-7 and VAM-21. The reverse die is a bit hard to VAM from the photo, but I'm leaning toward it being the reverse die for VAM-21 because of the pitting in the lower third of the neck gap. If it is VAM-21, this VAM was only discovered last year. VAM-21 is a second marriage for both dies. The obverse die was previously used in VAM-7 and the reverse die was previously used in VAM-19. I'm torn between UNC and just a touch of wear. IMHO, it's either a fantastic slider or it should make MS-63. The reverse is nice. I played with the photos a bit, and there is luster and it looks original to my eyes. I think the lighting conditions washed out the appearance a bit. |
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there is luster and it looks original to my eyes. I think the lighting conditions washed out the appearance a bit this one was a tough call due to toning and lighting. my biggest concern was the amount of luster remaining and any signs of wear. I attempted to adjust the photo but was unsuccessful so I will go with FC's assessment, and assume there is some luster. the reverse is easier to assess and the luster is there albeit broken. Maybe if the photo had a little more light on that obv would help as it makes the surfaces look flat and dull. if the obv luster is there in some form then i'll go with MS62 due to not being able to determine how much luster is on the obv, the eye appeal and the reeding hit on the cheek. on slabbed coins I've seen TPG's detail the coin with these, and in a lot of cases define it as PMD. I think it depends on location, how deep it is and how long it is. this one may slide. As FC stated, if it was circulated, it would be a fantastic slider |
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My original assessment was MS-63
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Posted 06/17/2025 8:25 pm
