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1973-D Lincoln Memorial Cent Obverse Cud?

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Good afternoon CCF! Back with another coin needing some diagnostics from the Community.
This is a first for me! I believe I have found a Cud on the Obverse Rim on a 1973-D that starts above the O in GOD and ends just before the W in WE on the IN GOD WE TRUST peripheral device. Thanks for looking and any and all feedback is welcomed, HAPPY HUMP DAY! -Kyle
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 Posted 06/25/2025  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kinda looks like a rim Cud. Can ya give us an edge shot?
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 Posted 06/25/2025  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
in your first image it looks like damage to the rim, but in your 3rd image (the close up) it looks like a rim Cud.
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 Posted 06/25/2025  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a Rim Cud.
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 Posted 06/25/2025  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oddguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will say rim Cud also.
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Good Evening CCF! Thanks a lot everyone for your expertise, I was only aware from reading about Cuds being present on the Rim, I did not know they could be anywhere else. Here are the requested edge shots for better diagnostics, thanks everyone!
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No damage in the area - looks good - Cud it is!
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 Posted 06/26/2025  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice rim Cud.
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nice rim Cud
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Awesome, Rim Cud it is! Is this rare? Cool find? And is there something other than Rim Cud? Just curious and still trying to learn and absorb as much as I can from the CCF. Thanks for all the replies!
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Awesome, Rim Cud it is! Is this rare? Cool find? And is there something other than Rim Cud? Just curious and still trying to learn and absorb as much as I can from the CCF. Thanks for all the replies!
Don't mean to burst your bubble but in my opinion, this is a finned rim that has been moved/displaced metal, damage. As for the rarity factor, if it were a Cud, not that rare, size matters, the bigger the better. Look at my pics of your full coin shot close up. Your closeups mask what is really happening, once again, my opinion. Also a link to a Rim Fin. Pic has green arrows showing the movement, yellow circle shows where it was, red circle shows where it went.

Finning. https://www.error-ref.com/finning/




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-makescents- there is no bubble to burst! I am here for knowledge and collecting is my new hobby, specifically 1909-Current Cents. Thanks for your opinion and something new for me to research, THANK YOU!
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Alrighty CCF! Let's get it! So I have been schooling myself on rim finning for the last couple hours and thanks to all the great information here on the CCF as well as a few other sites I believe I have a decent grasp on what may be going on but need everyones opinion on this. I believe what we are seeing on this 1973-D LMC is a combination of a couple things. Great call by -makescents- this is definitely a case of Rim Fin. On the Obverse, the Finning begins at the I of the peripheral device "IN GOD WE TRUST" and goes all the way down until right before Lincoln's bust begins. Take a look here at these shots of the Obverse, some are not completely in focus but the shadows show the finning very well.

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Here are some pictures of the finning discovered on the Reverse of this coin. The finning starts just above the T in United of the periphery device "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" and ends after the left lower portion of the Lincoln Memorial and just before the O in One of the periphery device "ONE CENT". After doing a bit of research, it seems that both sides of the coin usually will display signs of finning if the die is out of level with the collar during striking of the planchet, and sure enough, that was true for this coin.

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In conclusion, I believe this coin is showing both Rim Finning and a very small Cud, possibly a Cud with a portion of the die still attached. If you look at the pictures of the suspected Cud there is what seems to be a small crack reaching inboard towards the D in GOD of the peripheral device "IN GOD WE TRUST". -makescents- I agree and believe I have verified you are correct about the Rim Fin. However, I disagree about the movement of material from the yellow section you circled to the red circle in the graphic you created. To me it seems like there is too much "Normal Rim" in between the suspected movement of metal, if I understand what you meant. What I could see is a lot of squeeze out at the red circles area where the suspected Cud is located but I do not understand how that would flatten out or why it looks like there is a crack extending from one side of the suspected Cud to the other?
Whatever the CCF decides about this coin this 1973-D is still going in my collection as a coin that has increased my knowledge of Numismatics and to me that deserves appreciation!
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-makescents- after a bit more pondering and looking at the coin and pictures there is not much "normal rim" in between the yellow and red areas you circled. To be clear there is no indentation either where the yellow circle is, but maybe your saying the fin that was there was somehow moved to the red area? In that case I would argue that there is definitely not enough material to create what we see in the red circle. Anyways THANK YOU AGAIN as you are helping me learn and I truly am learning a lot thinking about how a coin is made and how errors are created and hopefully anyone who reads this will as well! -Kyle
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