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1873 Proof Two Cent Piece Die Markers?

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I have a Two Cent Piece with no date. I put it under magnification and under various lighting conditions. I swear up and down that I see a faint 7 and a 3. It can only be the 1873 Proof. However, you have to look at the images for a long time to even discern anything faint. Are there any other die markers for that specific coin that I can look for that would verify my claim?
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@rba, I understand that you are looking for potential markers such as die dents and die cracks rather than trying to show us something specific about this coin, but still, can you please post a couple overall pics of your coin? Thx.
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These are a few of my older microscope pics from last year. I don't have the full overall coin ones on me. I'm stuck at work. Haha.

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Just can't really see it in the supplied pictures. Can you at least outline what you are seeing?

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Tried my best to outline.
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Just can't make it out but then I need glasses or else I'm legally blind!

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We would need full photos of the obverse and reverse. Unfortunately, I don't see what you're seeing.

It is extremely unlikely that the coin is an 1873 proof-only issue. PCGS hasn't graded any lower than VG-8, and your example would probably be P-01 if the date is even identifiable. Also, the 3 on a genuine 1873 is not located where you have indicated on your photo. Here is a photo from PCGS showing the date positions:
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Yes, it is unlikely. But the 3 is where it is supposed to be. I measured it in the past.
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Faint features like that sometimes show up well with axial lighting.

I think a full image of the coin face would be useful here. Zooming in to such a tiny area can obscure the features you are trying to capture.
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What about "Side Lighting" the coin. Like they do to with paper money to see if it was washed or wrinkled. Lay a UV (or bright LED) flashlight down to shine across the coin - it may bring out some details.

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Can I see a full shot of the reverse please?
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All great ideas. Appreciate it guys. I will try. When I have a moment I will try and upload
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The photos need to be taken with the coin out of the holder as the reflections are preventing me from seeing a die markers I need to see, especially the UNITED on the reverse.

Try again with the coin out of the holder, thanks.
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