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1936 Buffalo Nickel (2 Feathers) Question

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Thumbing through some Buffalo nickels, I noticed one of the 1936 (Philadelphia) or no mint mark Buffalo nickels had the features of a 2 feather variety. Is there a variety or designation for 1936 of a 2 feather? If so, any value to it?
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Yes it's a 2 feather...but I'm more focused on the reverse...I'll wait for others..
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No 2-feather Buffalo nickels have been identified for 1936 AFAIK. I can see remnants of the feather in your photos, but there may also be a die clash that is partially obscuring the area behind the neck.
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No 2-feather Buffalo nickels have been identified for 1936 AFAIK.


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I can see remnants of the feather in your photos, but there may also be a die clash that is partially obscuring the area behind the neck.
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This was supplied by DrBurnzy just a few days ago referring to a 1916 2F Buff.

"I took a snippet photo from this site some time back just to have a listing of 2 feathers and their relative ease of acquiring. The 20th in the list being the easiest of the 20 listed."
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I'm not seeing this as a 2-feather nickel, but I do see some coin Rolling Machine Damage on the reverse - and Just what happened to the face of the buffalo?
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It's a bit hard to assess from the photos, but it looks like the coin has been acid treated and likely was altered.

I don't know of any 1936 Philadelphia partial or missing third feather varieties. While there is a known 1936-D three-and-a-half-leg variety, this coin isn't close in appearance.

Grease Filled Dies sometimes can mimic missing feathers and legs and more, but I've never seen any coin with part of the buffalo's face missing due to grease, especially on such a sharp angle. The face isn't a commonly clashed area and generally isn't polished. The lone exception is the 1937-D three-leg variety, where one side of the beard was abraded, but even there the buffalo's face wasn't affected. Die polishing frequently removes the hair on the buffalo's head, but rarely abrades more. The only other common heavy abrasions are on the buffalo's back, close to EPU, which can be partly abraded when the dies are polished to remove the chin/EPU clash.

It looks as though the buffalo's face has been removed and two of the legs may have been altered. Scrape marks are visible on the top of the buffalo's right rear leg, and there is what looks like an acid interaction in the space between the buffalo's head and UNITED. None of that looks like any of the known three-leg or three-and-a-half-leg varieties. The third feather is still visible, which on a known feather variety coin would make it a two-and-a-half feather variety, rather than a true two-feather variety.

Again, it is hard to make the call from photos, but the appearance of the coin strongly suggests that the surfaces have been exposed to acid. The circle on the reverse is from a Coin Wrapping Machine.
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Very cool find, but I believe it is a contemporary counterfeit and I think the same person/crew produced both 1935 and 1936 years. There are links to other websites/threads that show both of these examples in a similar state to yours but I am unable to link it here.

There is a later die state (even shallower) of the 1936 example on CCF.
https://goccf.com/t/49140

The common clues are the shallow looking design on both the obverse and reverse which sometimes mimic over polishing the dies, so little or no 3rd feather, missing details above and below the Indians nose, missing mouth of the buffalo, weak or missing front and rear leg(s). Also the designer initial is often missing or very weak on these.

This one has the added Wrapping Machine Damage like fortcollins mentioned.
These don't show up too often so always a good find, thanks for sharing.
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