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Well heres one open for debate opionions solicited. I Loaded GC's Great Photo of coin to assist yes they sexy them up a bit it seems but they nailed this one imo. Im seeing an MS61 coin but who knows what that black and blue may or may not be hiding? Any thoughts on restoration at NGC? Thanks in advance.    |
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You're right - who knows what's hiding under the toning. As it stands it looks like 61 or maybe even a 62. I don't like the toning as the obverse looks spotty and the reverse looks almost like a fingerprint (but I don't think it is) and I don't like that spot of "corrosion" that looks to have leeched out a little right by the last E in ONE.
I realize it has a low mintage of around 700,000 but it's a gamble going all in to win it.
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Thanks Marve65 your fingerprint hunch on reverse was correct, in hand big fat reverse thumbprint. Slabb is NGC 1993 - 1995 I wonder if coin looked this dark in 1995? Hints of rose pink in some recesses but mostly blue and black.
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I'm thinking MS-62, primarily because of the dark toning. I don't see any obvious surface marks that would lower the grade, and it may well be technically higher than a 62, but this would be a coin I would have to examine closely in hand. I still wouldn't buy it because I find the toning unattractive and because of the reverse spots. The toning and possible corrosion spots suggests environmental damage to me.
As you noted, GC's photos are misleading. They definitely make the toning seem lighter than it is, especially on the reverse. Unfortunately, I don't think there's any conservation work that could change that.
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Yes stabilizing this coins surface is high on my list. Oddball coin Ive been lurking 10 months for an original 1895 P in F12 - VF to match my set no luck I put this date in same category as the 1894 O attractive F+ coins down right scarce. Bowers has commented some advanced collectors go for proof examples of the 1895 P due to scarcity of avail attractive MS coins.
Am revealing NGC grade premature so forum can dive deeper into grade given 30 years ago its AU-55.
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I'll guess MS-62 as well.
Errers and Varietys.
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I've seen this look before. it occurs when an old cleaning of silver oxidizes. probably UNC details (cleaned)
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NGC grade premature so forum can dive deeper into grade given 30 years ago its AU-55. NGC + 30 years ago when maybe the coins surfaces were easier to read - yeah I could see that! |
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All those depression era coins are tough, especially in higher grades. This one has a decent strike, not too many surface dings, and is in that tough grade range. It's the eye appeal and concerns about ongoing surface issues that really make me pause, too. Do we have any idea where this coin was stored? It has a really mottled look and sometimes that can occur when coins are stored in humid environments (or worst case, in floods). My fear is that it may be irreversible and will continue to progress. IMHO, on a bourse floor, this one would make people hesitate if or when it came time to sell it. If you bought it, would you be happy? Or would you keep looking and compare it to other coins that you see later?
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Im happy with coin and intend snapping it out for acetone bath and a drop of CoinServ then off to ANACS. Will post pics once I give it careful rinse. No problems with ANACS holder as I'm fond of coins sharpness probably UNC details will post ANACS grade. $563 after buyers fee and shipping.
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Forgot to mention top 2 pics are my own android shots taken in natural light no editing only bottom pic is GC.
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Im happy with coin and intend snapping it out for acetone bath and a drop of CoinServ then off to ANACS. Keep us posted!  |
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hopefully they can clean it up. if not, it could be slabbed UNC PMD. with the costs at PCGS and NGC today, I dont have a problem with ANACS but havent seen a lot of conserved coins from them. will be interest to see on this one when you get it back. take photos after acetone so we can see the results prior to conservation. |
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Acetone rinse and classic coin conditioner applied revealing at best UNC details EV at worst AU details EV. Good lesson for me having handled so few MS Barber dimes I focused too much on strike, details, and TPG. Still like the coin very much and will keep however if I knew nthen what I know now my max bid would be $350ish not $501. I know the basics and very good at finding raw G - XF Barbers but AU MS whole different ball game. Thanks for comments will let you know ANACS grade - no need for TPG conservation imo as Classic Coin Conditioner is good stuff. Pics unedited in sunlight.    |
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Panzaldi you have a good point about ANACS conservation I'm curious also and since I'm doing the 10 for $140 ANACS deal will pay the $25 for their conservation service. Will be intrsting to compare before and after.
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 Your angled photos after acetone and CCC are excellent. The surfaces are definitely better than I thought they might be from the original photos. Enlarged photos always make tiny coins like dimes look worse than they do in hand, so I think you are going to be OK here. I really do like the sharp strike on your coin. I don't slab many coins, but when I do, I use ANACS far more than the other two, not because of cost but because they are more consistently accurate on grades for many series right now. |
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