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PlutonianFire Valued Member United States 120 Posts	Posted 10/15/2025 03:43 am On May 19, 2025, I submitted 13 Lincoln cents to PCGS for grading with variety attribution. On July 1, 2025, I received 13 graded Lincoln cents from PCGS but none of them had a variety attribution. My initial reaction was to seriously question the competency of the PCGS graders in attributing varieties. However, common sense told me that the PCGS graders probably hadn't missed all of them. Clearly, I needed a bit of help ... quite a bit of help. So, I started uploading presumptive doubled die Lincoln cents to the CCF. It wasn't an easy process because all I wanted was confirmation that I was correct. But that's ... uhhh ... not what I got. What I got was critical feedback about every coin that I uploaded. And in just a couple months of intensive posting of coin photos, I was able to amass a gold mine of information on how to identify doubled dies. On September 9, 2025, I submitted 8 Lincoln cents to PCGS. Each submitted coin had been vetted by CCF members and I included the full, verbatim "thread" of text for each of the 8 coins. I also included multiple photos with arrows pointing to areas of doubling and major die markers. Today, I received the results of grading and variety attribution. ALL of the 8 submitted Lincoln were attributed with the presumptive variety. Many thanks to all of the CCF members who commented on my posts. If anyone is interested, each submitted doubled die variety is listed below with the corresponding PCGS Cert#: 1909 VDB 1C DDO, FS-1101, RB MS63RB https://www.pcgs.com/cert/53994937 1917 1C DDO, FS-101, BN G06BN 53994938 1936 1C DDO, FS-101, BN VF30BN 53994939 1936 1C DDO, FS-102, BN VF35BN 53994940 1936 1C DDO, FS-103, BN XF45BN 53994941 1941 1C DDO, FS-101, BN VF35BN 53994943 1941 1C DDO, FS-102, BN VF30BN 53994944 1941 1C DDO, FS-103, BN XF40BN 53994942 Report this Post to the Staff

-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8728 Posts	Posted 10/15/2025 05:34 am Congrats on the outcome of your latest submissions, that's great! -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94786 Posts	Posted 10/15/2025 08:04 am pretty nice on getting all these DDOs certified. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
smat45 Pillar of the Community United States 2333 Posts	Posted 10/15/2025 09:20 am WTG! Thanks for the follow-up. smat Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHI Pillar of the Community United States 2731 Posts	Posted 10/15/2025 10:34 am I went through the same process here about 6 years ago. It took a couple months of posting to figure out what was what. CCF is a great coin forum! Congrats! "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254 Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 Report this Post to the Staff
Brandmeister Pillar of the Community United States 6458 Posts	Posted 10/15/2025 11:07 am Quote: It wasn't an easy process because all I wanted was confirmation that I was correct. But that's ... uhhh ... not what I got. What I got was critical feedback about every coin that I uploaded. That is a recurring pattern for more experienced collectors when they join CCF. I recall that you were not very happy with the feedback in the beginning. Congrats on the final results with PCGS, that is a really neat collection of LWC doubled die specimens. Although I am not a member of communities like CONECA or NGC, I believe that CCF is probably the best assemblage of U.S. variety coin experts and enthusiasts on the Internet. It is a remarkable free resource. The patience with which these guys carefully analyze a coin and give coaching on identification is simply superb. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73688 Posts	Posted 10/15/2025 11:38 am Congratulations on the outcome of your recent submissions! Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187702 Posts	Posted 10/15/2025 11:51 am Fantastic! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
oriole Pillar of the Community Canada 5238 Posts	Posted 10/15/2025 11:54 am It just proves how much the CCF members know! Report this Post to the Staff
FsdWarp10 Pillar of the Community United States 673 Posts	Posted 10/15/2025 12:29 pm Congrats on your submissions! The CCF is a good place with good people who will give you honest opinions, good or bad. I have also learned so much from the people here. I seem to learn more when I am wrong. The unvarnished truth is a great thing. Edited by FsdWarp10 10/15/2025 12:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94786 Posts	Posted 10/15/2025 1:20 pm Would it be possible to link each of the coins above to the topic that relates to them? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19115 Posts	Posted 10/15/2025 3:28 pm Fascinating, yes! Report this Post to the Staff
PlutonianFire Valued Member United States 120 Posts	Posted 10/23/2025 8:57 pm Quote: [DEARBORN] - Would it be possible to link each of the coins above to the topic that relates to them? As per DEARBORN's suggestion, here are links to the eight Lincoln Cent doubled die variety topic threads corresponding to coins that were graded by PCGS (please see above). 1909 VDB DDO FS-1101 https://goccf.com/t/481364 1917 DDO FS-101 https://goccf.com/t/481258 1936 DDO FS-101 https://goccf.com/t/481878 1936 DDO FS-102 https://goccf.com/t/479603 1936 DDO FS-103 https://goccf.com/t/480005 1941 DDO FS-101 https://goccf.com/t/481188 1941 DDO FS-102 https://goccf.com/t/481761 1941 DDO FS-103 https://goccf.com/t/481763 Many thanks to the 19 contributors who were discussion participants in one or more topic threads: 1. -MAKECENTS- 2. COIN REJECTOR 3. COINHI 4. DEARBORN 5. EARLE42 6. ERRERS AND VARIETYS 7. FORTCOLLINS 8. FSDWARP10 9. GIGI2110 10. I6609 11. JBUCK 12. JFEED 13. MARVE65 14. NICKELSEARCHER 15. ODDGUY 16. PETESPOCKETS55 17. POUND_FOOLISH 18. ROBO411 19. URUMAN *Of note, if it hadn't been for FORTCOLLINS stepping in regarding the 1936 FS-103 variety attribution, with encyclopedic knowledge of dies and die markers to explain why my presumptive attribution was correct, the consensus would probably have been that I was seeing doubling where there was none ... and I would not have submitted the coin for grading (until FORTCOLLINS posted, nobody else was "seeing it"). Not to say I'm right very often when others are wrong. But sometimes I can't get high enough quality photos to do justice to doubling that I can see more clearly with the stereoscope. In this case, as underscored by FORTCOLLINS, the presence of multiple die markers can sometimes help support the variety attribution ... as long as they aren't dismissed as a "coincidence". Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8728 Posts	Posted 10/23/2025 9:52 pm Stick with it! Glad fortcollins was able to get you over the top with a tough one that maybe we didn't pay enough attention to. -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
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