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You are proposing it as a doubled die. The next step is for you to go to Wexler, Variety Vista, or Copper Coins and try to match it to a specific attribution.
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Maybe ddo-010? On visa? Not good at this. Newer at the error collecting gig
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A lot of people are misled by the internet into learning the hobby backwards. Frustration comes from continually looking for odd things and then trying to match that oddity to something collectable. A good way to start is, for instance, get a box of penny rolls from the bank and sort the coins by date and mint mark. Go to varietyvista.com and, date by date, use the reference there to see what errors are known for that specific coin/mint mark. Look for those specific errors/varieties using the pictures provided. After doing this for awhile you will KNOW what an actual error looks like and not have to waste time on face value and damaged coins. :) Also, when you understand the way dies are made, then you will understand why the pictures on that site have to match EXACTLY, to the slightest detail, with any coin you may find. https://www.coinnews.net/2014/01/06...oduce-coins/ Even a die that accidently is given a doubled image has to make exactly identical looking doubled die coins.
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Edited by Earle42 10/25/2025 10:53 am
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First, a DD is not an error, it is a variety. An error is usually a one off due to some malfunction in the striking of the coin. Before looking for errors and to save you time and frustration, suggest learning the minting process and what an actual error is. About 99% of the anomalies you see on a coin are just some form of damage. It is rare to find an actual error in the wild.
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 to the CCF
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 to CCF. The devices look normal for this year coin, but the rim on the left side is very interesting - rim Cud or maybe fold over Rim Fin.
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Interesting example. 
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I notice the extra flag in the bottom of the 2. Not a double but I thought it was a variety. Could have sworn I seen it on vista.
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For 1972 coins with the master die doubling, such as yours, yes you should be looking above the crossbar of the 2. There are quite a number of actual doubled dies in this area, along with abundant other marks which don't really qualify. If you see something there, as I do with your coin, you just sort of have to go down through the listed examples and see if you can find a match. Variety Vista generally requires a stronger doubling than Wexler's or Coppercoins, so a minor issue is more likely to be on one of those last two sites. My guess, from your photos, is that the posted coin would not actually qualify and therefore no listing for it. But you are certainly looking in the right place. FYI, the last 1972 FS-109 I sent to PCGS came back without the variety attribution on the label, so even they get it wrong. I had the variety verified by Dan Griffin, the Lincoln Cent attributor for Wexler's, and am resubmitting it with a letter stating it is FS-109. It's a lot of work for just an MS65 coin, but usually they fix these kinds of errors for free so I'm doing it. It also lets them know they got it wrong.
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The 1972 cent DDO is one of my favorite coins to collect, but you have to be careful not to be fooled by the Master Die Doubling ones being listed as DDO on such websites as ebay. As suggested by others above, study the various attribution websites like Vista, Wexler, Copper Coins and others. Good luck with your search.
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Don't believe people that say they can't be found but you have to look at many, many coins. I did the same as you as 1972 was the first cent I thought I had a doubled die on but it was master die doubling. Some time later, I found an actual 1972 DDO. I also found an off center 1983 quarter that had a lot of miles of it.
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