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Any thoughts on the grade of this coin? I think that's a lamination on the obverse but not sure. Thank you.  
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Interesting and not a clue. I would say that if it was caused by a PMD strike, you'd expect evidence of it on the reverse, but there is none.
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I'd say XF-40. Doesn't look like damage because the staff, arm, and star are unaffected. Possibly a large strike through.
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Solid XF-40 detail. I agree the obverse defect doesn't look like PMD. Maybe a defective planchet; if a strike-thru error I'd expect soft or missing detail for the arm and staff. Is this the variety with the repunched 5 in the date? The photo isn't clear enough to confirm.
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Right - not damage. Either a strike through or a lamination error.
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I agree. It's not damage. It's either a Lamination issue or a Struck Through.
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Looks like a strike through. Even at that, it's a beautiful coin.
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I don't think it's strike through, like Jaobler said, because Liberty's arm and pole are unaffected and star 12 is intact. Laminations to me are more like slag from an improper alloying process that cause chunks of metal to flake away, so I rule that out. To me this looks like someone took a tool like a small rounded chisel and dug out some of the silver from the obverse. Most people would go the route of filing the rims, but the person who did this seems to have been inspired to dig some silver out of the face of this coin, carefully working around the arm, pole and star 12. Looks like post-mint damage ( PMD) to me.
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Quote: To me this looks like someone took a tool like a small rounded chisel and dug out some of the silver from the obverse. This seems far-fetched to me. If someone wanted to extract some silver from the coin, why would they meticulously carve around the devices rather than just take another hunk out somewhere. I agree having the arm and pole be so unaffected by a strike through is unusual, but it still seems like the most plausible explanation. You could try getting an accurate weight, since a strike through should have a normal weight, while digging out a chunk of silver would result in a slightly lower weight.
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Quote: If someone wanted to extract some silver from the coin, why would they meticulously carve around the devices rather than just take another hunk out somewhere. I agree having the arm and pole be so unaffected by a strike through is unusual, but it still seems like the most plausible explanation. Here's another "hypothetical" theory. When struck, could the metal have flown into the obverse die cavity and filled the top of the flag & pole and top of her hand & arm - along with filling the bottom pole and bottom of her arm then the metal was pushed into the remaining void meeting in the middle to fill the cavities while not effecting the planchet damage? EDIT: Forgot the picture. I tried to make a little more clear...... 
Edited by Marv65 01/24/2026 03:00 am
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Thank you for the feedback.
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