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1867 Shield Nickel, With Rays

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 Posted 09/13/2009  12:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here's my example of the "with rays" Shield nickel type. What grade do you think it deserves?

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 Posted 09/13/2009  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU58
Awesome nickel!
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 Posted 09/13/2009  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree AU-58, It has several die breaks. Nice coin.
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 Posted 09/13/2009  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say a well struck 58 at least...
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 Posted 09/14/2009  04:33 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
High AU or low MS? A toughie. The overall appearance of the reverse makes me think AU55. The obverse says MS63.

Without a break from the graders it went 55.
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 Posted 09/14/2009  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownas22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would give this one a AU-58+...Looks better than a MS-60 would in my opinion. looks to have great eye appeal!
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I agree the reverse isn't as nice as the obverse and has relatively muted luster. The obverse has strong cartwheel luster. Careful inspection however does not show any luster breaks or visible wear on the reverse, at least to my eyes. I wonder how that happens? Was the coin made that way, or has the reverse suffered some post-mint trauma that reduced the luster without causing visible wear or creating an "altered surface" issue to PCGS?

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 Posted 09/16/2009  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownas22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We have not been giving your coins enough respect, I gave it an AU grading due to the lack of luster on the reverse, This is why I am not a professional grader. A very nice coin.
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Well you let the cat out of the bag James before I could comment, I was going to say MS62. Nice example, those suckers are hard to find!
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I was going to say AU-55 what I thought was wear on some of the stars and rays.
Thats what I mean by not telling the difference between weak strike and wear.
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I was going to say AU-55 what I thought was wear on some of the stars and rays. Thats what I mean by not telling the difference between weak strike and wear.

One problem with the 1866 and 1867 (rays) nickels was that the stars and rays did not strike up completely. I've seen many AU and MS examples which show very poor definition of these features. I believe my nickel is actually well above average in terms of reverse strike, which is one reason I bought it!
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