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Take A Stab At My PCGS Graded 1867 With Rays Shield Nickel

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Click them for full size. I promise there is lustre on this coin on both sides.

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 Posted 09/23/2009  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see a slight bit of wear on the rays and on the edge of the shield. I'd grade it at AU-58. I like the die cracks and what appears to be a Cud under the date.
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 Posted 09/23/2009  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin...even though slightly marked on the reverse(5 cent)side,
I would grade this coin MS-61 or 2...enjoy!
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 Posted 09/23/2009  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to say MS63, nice piece
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I would have to say MS 63 aswell.. What is the mark attached to the first S in States.. Its missing one of the serrifs ..Could it be counterfeit?
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 Posted 09/23/2009  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never mind , I forgot to put on my glasses, the S is OK.. But I will stick to MS 63
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 Posted 09/23/2009  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see why it wouldn't be a 63 or 64 if the luster is there.
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 Posted 09/24/2009  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think some axial lighting might help here! ;-)
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I think some axial lighting might help here! ;-)


You think? I might try it again tonight...grrr!
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It comparable to my PCGS MS-63 example, with perhaps an even better reverse strike. It could be an AU-58 but I'd bet on MS-63 or possibly MS-64. It's a nice one for sure!
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 Posted 09/25/2009  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it has die cracks at "In God" on the obverse. That might hold it back some.
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 Posted 09/27/2009  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuffaloLover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok this is a good example for me to learn from. I see what looks like die cracks too, but what about the letters and the date, could they be doubled die? I want someone to please explain to me so I can understand the doubled die thing better. I am pulling coins out of my searches all the time and wondering if they are or if they aren't. so maybe you can explain what I am seeing.

Really nice coin!
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This one came back as a MS64 from PCGS. The reverse is one of the strongest I have encountered, hence the reason I bought it. The Cud below the date, the die gouges throught the "R" in TRUST, and die cracks really add a lot of character to this coin's obverse.
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 Posted 09/29/2009  01:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-64 sounds about right. It's funny, though your pictures don't show the reflectivity of the luster, I can tell there is luster there by the texture of the skin of the coin now that I look close. Luster, especially on older coins I've noticed has a distinct graininess to it when examined really close.
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It's funny, though your pictures don't show the reflectivity of the luster, I can tell there is luster there by the texture of the skin of the coin now that I look close. Luster, especially on older coins I've noticed has a distinct graininess to it when examined really close.


Ya I need to work on my lighting. Been talking to Prethen about what I am doing wrong.
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 Posted 12/01/2009  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add busthalf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You see I see the area on the rays as wear and I would have said AU-58.
But that is weak strike so MS-64.
Someday I will learn to tell the differnce between weak strike and wear.
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