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Let me preface this question with an acknowledgement that I am sure this question has been discussed a lot as well as subject of contention for some. This is solely one man trying to tone a common silver coin for personal display enjoyment.

What is a good paper (sulphur) to wrap an ASE bullion to acquire toning? I'd like a subtle light brown, almost golden hue, if possible with silver. And where, how would you store such a wrapped coin?

I know I can't expect what toned a nickel to produce the same for a silver coin but, I recently found a beautiful 1954 nickel with a subtle golden hue (I have to get a better digital camera to post pics with).

I am not expecting an overnight success. I just don't want to wait years either.

I would totally appreciate your technique if you have had success.

Thank you.

Stephen
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 Posted 11/23/2009  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've heard that Taco bell napkins do some pretty quick coloring. Something about their
extrodinary sulphur content.
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 Posted 11/23/2009  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cmdrstp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Before or after using them? lol.
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cmdrstp,

I got the result you're looking for with an ASE simply left in a manilla coin envelope for about 1 year. It's near chocolate at the rim, with a golden progression to peach at the center. I would prep it in an acetone bath to remove any organic contaminants (oils, dirt, etc.), with a thorough rinse.

The Taco Bell napkin experiment with a Morgan dollar resulted in an ugly, blotchy dark tone.
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 Posted 11/25/2009  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Place your coins in any paper bag, put in one hard boiled egg, add one chopped up onion, same with a few gloves of garlic. Several well chopped up TAI pepper preverably the Red Ones also should be added to that bag. Place in a very warm area.
I've no idea what you will end up with but if you try this, you may find many relatives mad at you due to the smell.
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 Posted 11/29/2009  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cmdrstp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOL.

Thank you, SeatedNut. I will do that and report in a year!
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 Posted 11/30/2009  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerc20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have heard the sulpher in an egg works rather well if (for your own sake) it is in an enclosed container like a tupperware. Now, if you can get some pure sulpher (try https://www.unitednuclear.com .....seriously...in the chemicals link) you could use that. But it takes more to do it, I just don't remember. At one point I had found a recipe for toning silver from some jewelry maker online, but have long since lost it. I'm sure it's out there in internet world.

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 Posted 11/30/2009  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If your serious about testing for toning, here are seveal serious, although dumb sounding, suggestions.
1. If you have access to an Lead Acid auto battery, take out some of that acid, place in a glass jar, suspend a coin over the liquid for several days. Note if the coin starts to discolor, tone, etc., remember to move it around in the string or wires used to suspend it or you'll end up with lines.
2. Not all dishsoaps are the same but some will actually tone a coin if dipped in pure dishsoap and allowed to dry in the sun.
3. Constantly spitting on a coin and allowing it to sit in the Sun sometimes works but completely depends on what you eat. I've known people that have a breath that would melt some coins.
4. Place a coin or coins in the center of a food container, place onions, garlic, hard boiled eggs in the corners. Seal, place in the Sun and wait. The amount of each, freshness, types, age all contribute to different results.
5. Some have had really great success just heating in an oven. Place on a rack in the oven, spray with some cooking grease, heat for several minutes pending on the results.
6. Place in a steak, cook, don't eat the steak or the coin.
AND the really easiest method is to just buy one.
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With number 6, wouldn't hamburger work just as well, for less cost?
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 Posted 12/01/2009  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
... or you could Cwbyup and hit it with a flame-thrower!
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With number 6, wouldn't hamburger work just as well, for less cost?


Good point. And just as with the steak, the type of hamburger could make a real difference. Now you have me wondering if the adding of cheese would also help or just make for better tasting coin.
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I just might start taking my coins to In-N-Out!
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 Posted 12/07/2009  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cmdrstp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, all.
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I have put a couple silver quarters in a jar of sulpherized dark thread cutting oil.They turned out a nice golden color in a couple days.
Cheers,Brewzz
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I did it to a walker years ago. Like seatednut suggested using a manila envelope. But I would get the envelope wet and place it on the dash of my car. Seems like I left it there for about a month. I think the time you left it in the envelope would depend on the coin and how much tone you wanted. I have always thought the more original luster is left on the coin the better you can get toning color, nothing I have read just what I have thought.
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I suggest you buy the book Coin Chemistry, it tells you everything you need to know about toning silver. Toning silver is very easy! All you need to do is generate some hydrogen sulfide.
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