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 Posted 12/29/2009  11:20 pm Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So there's this dude that's selling a few of these bars and I was curious of anyones thoughts. Yet to find some good pricing info online. These are 1.5oz

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 Posted 12/29/2009  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think definitive authentication would be the tough part but that Reichsadler sure does look kinda cartoony...
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 Posted 12/29/2009  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought to too but all the rest of them that I have seen online have the same cartoonish design
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I vaguely remember seeing something about these bars somewhere on the net. One of the people responding thought the bars were fake due to the WaA stamp. I think it was something about that particular mark only being used for military armaments. I'm sorry I can't remember specific details or exactly where I saw it; I can say the guy seemed like he knew what he was talking about.
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according to wikipedia WaA was used by the military http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffenamt_codes there is even a picture of a WaA63 code over at the left of the page. Here is a 3OZ bar that was on ebay with the same code http://cgi.ebay.com/WWII-GERMAN-NAZ...AL_W0QQitemZ270502131060QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_Bullion?hash=item3efb2ef574 . The only thing that really bothers me is every other bar I have seen has a date on it and also has the word "SILBER" on it and the bar you show has neither
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 Posted 12/30/2009  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The most glaring omission on both bars are the weight. You would certainly want a weight for records, and to ensure nobody pilfers the bullion, it would be stamped on the bars. Also, why does this bar look tooled? Wouldn't it be cast, stamped with ser #, weight, and be done with it?

As for the markings, I know a guy who specializes in WWII artifacts, and is very familiar with 3 Reich stuff. I'll show him this bar in the next few days.
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Waffenamt codes is the inspection mark used on military equipment by the German Third Reich.


This quote is from the wiki Bryan1315 referenced. I guess the question is whether or not a silver bar would be considered military equipment.

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I wouldn't want one of these. It doesn't take much imagination to figure where the silver came from.
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Here is a low quality pic of all of the bars that he has.

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The other bars have Silber on them. I don't think I'm gonna get it but just an interesting piece of silver. Oh I failed to mention that he wants $200 for Each of them
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I agree with DVCollector, it has to have some weight indication, and a better looking swastika and "999" puncher
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I did a search for nazi silver in an attempt to get some info. I saw several craigslist ads across the country with the same picture, along with a story about how his grandfather picked them up in France during WWII. I suppose someone could be posting in different areas but that has always been a red flag to me.

I started seeing this type of silver bars in the middle of December & now they are all over the net. IMO, this is an indication of the spread of a new scam. On the other hand, it's possible that I haven't been paying attention & these have been around a lot longer than that.
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After seeing movies and reading how the Nazis got their silver and gold, there is no way I would ever want to own one. I agree with snowman.
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So I brought photos of all these bars to a dealer friend who specializes in WWII stuff--as well as bullion.
Immediately he didn't like the WaA63; he thought it looked like a weapons mark.
While this didn't strike me at first, he said that .999 was not used a purity at the time, that came decades later.
We also agreed the ReichsAdler looks bad, and I'm bothered by the 8/Okt/42. It's usually written 8.10.42 in 3R documents.
I also don't like the "DR&D" punch on the reverse; the & symbol is not commonly used in Germany. I'd expect DR u. D or equivalent.
Anyone who knows better on my hunches--please correct me.
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Fair enough


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The original Blood Diamonds?
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I agree with some of the comments above...I wouldn't even consider these.
The price paid so far is already to high (if in fact the silver was acquired from a human source)
It is not hard to believe though. I worked with a guy that operated a flame thrower (WWII I think). The stories about him acquiring gold were particularly grizzly. Even though this guy was acually one of the nicest people I ever worked with...human life is a price way to high to pay for silver or gold.
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