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 Posted 01/03/2010  08:35 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ken_3567 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is from a blog on my site but figured it was important enough to share:


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Many collectors dread this day and some never get around to it! But yes it is necessary to perform an annual inspection and inventory of coins. Don't believe me? I already found three coins I forgot to remove from a vinyl flip that they were shipped in and yes they started to get a a green hue from the PVC (softener for plastics) already beginning to leach into the coins.

Still whining? Come on folks, its the dead of winter! What else do you have to do. Trust me when I say its healthy for the collection, your mind, & soul! So without further hesitation let's begin.

#1 Holders

Inspect those flips. Are they hard & brittle? Cracking? Did a Vinyl flip sneak in somehow? If you answered yes to any of these questions then its time to change that holder. If you are unlucky like myself and had some PVC leach onto a coin then you'll need an Acetone bath. If you don't know how to do this its simple. Buy pure Acetone ( Walmart has some in the beauty section but make sure it is 100% pure) and a gallon of distilled water. Dip your coin in the acetone for just a few seconds and then rinse with distilled water. Quickly dry the coin (pat and never rub) with a soft cotton towel. Do not let the coin air dry as the water droplets will leave stains on the coin.

Alright time for those cardboard flips. Has the mylar window torn? Is the staple rusting? If using self-sealing types has the glue become unstuck? Are the coins starting to change color? If the answer is yes to any then change that holder!

#2 Coin Storage

Use coin pages? Pages can stretch overtime and shouldn't be ignored. Inspect each coin by tugging each holder in each pocket. Does it slip out easily? If so it is time to replace that page. How about the seams on each pocket? Have any torn?

Whats that? You say you use coin albums and this doesn't pertain to you? Think again, cardboard pages contain sulfur and the albums are not air tight so your coins are just as susceptible. Inspect each coin for color. Do any appear to be changing? How about fit, even cardboard can wear over time. Feel like all of the coins are constantly slipping out of their slots a sliding behind the leatherette cover? If you run into any of these problems then the fix is a little tougher. You will have to contact the manufacturer or supplier to see if they carry replacement pages. Most do so you should be okay but if they don't you'll have to make a tough decision.

What about desiccants (like silicon packs for moisture). If you use these it is more than likely that it was thrown in and forgotten about. Bad news is its probably no longer effective. But not to worry, check with the desiccant manufacturer as most can be re-used by simply drying them out in an oven. Note: DO NOT DO THIS UNLESS THE MANUFACTURER GIVES YOU DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO DO SO.

#3 Inventory

You think you have the most organized coin collection around and it may very well be true but that doesn't mean you shouldn't do the once over anyway.

First is loose coins, we all have at least one lying on a desk or a shelf just waiting for us to do something. Well? Do something!

Second is neatness. Look at your storage options, is it time to straighten out those albums? Maybe label those boxes? How about neatly stacking everything in that safe?

#4 Cataloging

Using a coin software program, excel, data base or pen & paper? Is it up to date? Do you need to add another attribute to make searching a little easier? Some useful attributions I've seen are where your coins are stored (box #2, album #1 page 4, bank safety deposit box, etc.). Another useful attribute is if the coin is part of a set (20th Century Type Set, Lincoln Cent Album, etc.)

#5 Collecting interest

So you've sorted & organized your coins but do you still like what you have? Collecting interests can change overtime and you may have coins that no longer fit and become a real pain every time you do your annual organizing. Its a at this time you really need to ask yourself if you truly want the coin or are you just being a coin hoarder (a.k.a. pack rat)? You can attempt to sell those collection oddballs via a dealer or auction (like e-bay) but if you are not comfortable with this then why not try trading? Many dealers at coin shows are open to trade and there are many online coin communities where fellow collectors swap coins daily.

#6 Coin Receipts & Photos

This one is for the Insurance Man! I pray this never happens to you but coins can be stolen or damaged from a house fire, tornado, or some other natural disaster which means you'll have to deal with an Insurance company. To help this process gather up all of your receipts and place them in a fireproof box along with pictures of your coins. Do not have a fireproof box? How about scanning everything and storing it on a CD at a friend or relatives house? If you don't have a scanner then I recommend using a bank safety deposit box.
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 Posted 01/03/2010  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Whats that? You say you use coin albums and this doesn't pertain to you? Think again, cardboard pages contain sulfur and the albums are not air tight so your coins are just as susceptible. Inspect each coin for color. Do any appear to be changing? How about fit, even cardboard can wear over time. Feel like all of the coins are constantly slipping out of their slots a sliding behind the leatherette cover? If you run into any of these problems then the fix is a little tougher. You will have to contact the manufacturer or supplier to see if they carry replacement pages. Most do so you should be okay but if they don't you'll have to make a tough decision.

Utter nonsence. If you contact companies like Whitman, Dansco, Littleton, etc., you would find out that all modern folders do NOT contain sulfur or sulfur compounds. You didn't do your homework.

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Using a coin software program, excel, data base or pen & paper? Is it up to date? Do you need to add another attribute to make searching a little easier? Some useful attributions I've seen are where your coins are stored (box #2, album #1 page 4, bank safety deposit box, etc.). Another useful attribute is if the coin is part of a set (20th Century Type Set, Lincoln Cent Album, etc.)

Most coin collectors and dealers I know, if active in this hobby, are always up to date with what they have.

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This one is for the Insurance Man! I pray this never happens to you but coins can be stolen or damaged from a house fire, tornado, or some other natural disaster which means you'll have to deal with an Insurance company. To help this process gather up all of your receipts and place them in a fireproof box along with pictures of your coins. Do not have a fireproof box? How about scanning everything and storing it on a CD at a friend or relatives house? If you don't have a scanner then I recommend using a bank safety deposit box.

Again, as a general statement, this one is rediculous. Just how many do your think have reciepts for all their coins? Or even most of them? I've been collecting for well over 60 years and have absolutely no receipts for coins at all. Same with almost every thing I own. If I did it would take another house to store them all.
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 Posted 01/03/2010  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ken_3567 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the corrections Carl, The intent was just to just attend to the occasional required neatness & organization that sometimes gets away from us as collectors.

I agree that most collectors are organized and that most steps you do not need. In regards to the receipts I agree somewhat. For considerably large purchases I hold my receipts for not just insurance reasons but for also my wife and kids in case I die they can get a rough idea of value. Of course I do remind them that if something happens they should see a reputable dealer for help, I left his business card in my collection for them.
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 Posted 01/03/2010  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Neil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another reason for receipts is when you sale your collection and happen to get an IRS audit that shows you have this additional $25,000, $150,000, or whatever extra income amount. They find it by checking you bank deposits btw. You think the IRS is going to believe what you say you paid for the coins? I don't think so.
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 Posted 01/03/2010  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okie-colin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good post Ken. Thanks. I agree with Carl on the Dansco album, sulphur thingee. They don't have it in their pages. I don't agree with him about reciepts. Most of the coins I buy are online and I save the reciepts online. I believe one item that needs to be added is security. If your collection is at home - do you have a fireproof safe and a home security system? Of course the cheapest and safest is a bank deposit box. Happy New Year!
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 Posted 01/03/2010  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sheesh, try to give a little helpful advise and get torn up for it. Thanks for the post Ken!
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 Posted 01/03/2010  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ken_3567 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gotta be a little thick skinned, Carl was right in hitting me with the albums and I already thanked him for the correction.

Other than that I can take a hint
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 Posted 01/05/2010  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If your really worried about what might happen after your gone, rather than worrying about receipts, take a ton of photos. Find a place for the photos like a Safe Deposit box. Not just coins but your car, house, furniture, coins, guns, clothing, tools, etc. A reciept is what you paid for something and possibly a long time ago. This means that such items could have been given away, lost, sold, etc. and an insurance agent would require more than a receipt for proof of what you had. Not only that but for many items, tools for example, yours could be a pile of rust of bright shinny clean. An up to date photo collection of everything you own is something we all should be doing.
Way back film was a costly method to do this but with todays abilitiy to take literally thousands of photos on one little card, expense is o little concern. And even a cheap camera can at least make that a possibility. I constantly photograph almost everything I own for just in case.
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 Posted 01/06/2010  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Neil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You need both photos and receipts. Maybe the receipts are old, they're still better proof than your verbally saying, "oh I paid X dollars for that, no I don't have a receipt".
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 Posted 01/06/2010  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
heh.. not all collectors are organized.. you should see my office/coin area. I 'organize' it weekly and it still overflows with stuff a few days later. I'm trying to get organized but at the rate I'm going, it's going to be well into 2012 before that happens - and then Happy New Year, I'll have to re-inspect everything again!
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 Posted 01/06/2010  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And Ken, you might want to add a precaution to your acetone comment like you did with the desiccant. Acetone can hurtcha a lot quicker.
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