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Sad Story Of Americans Not Knowing Their Coinage

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I posted this article a few minutes ago over at my blog, The Coin Blog. The link is http://thecoinblog.clintonfitch.com/?p=85

The story is simple: I tried to pay for a soda with a Kennedy half and was turned down because "that is not a real coin". I tried to explain that it was by pointing out Kennedy had been on the coin since 1964 and that Ben Franklin was on it before him. That got a "Who's Ben Franklin?"

Aye... I pulled out two quarters and paid.

What a sad story - both for our coinage and for our youth.

Clinton

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 Posted 01/23/2010  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add specksynder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
look, the fellow had to push the button with the picture of a soda to place your order... what did you expect? As a kid in the family business, I remember that the till drawer has the standard 5 rows of drawers. The drawers were filled with (1) pennies, (2) nickels, (3) dimes, (4) quarters, (5) whatever weird stuff that came in that granddad might want to look at for his collection (half-dollars, Ike dollars, bicentennials, pesos, silver quarters, etc.).
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 Posted 01/23/2010  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a sad story, indeed! I know the educational system was in bad shape, but not quite THAT bad!. My dad made me take the second grade again, because he didn't like my graders. Now one is lucky, if the kids even finish grade school! Bottom line: The "pimps won't even accept a girl, unless she has a high-school diploma"!
Just think, we will be
led by this calibre of representative in a very few years. What did the Aztexc know, that we should have known?
Dick
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 Posted 01/23/2010  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its not just coins, thanks to a forum member who sent me some 2 dollar bills, I decided to spend a few , tips at the truck stop( at the same table where I met this forum member) I left a two dollar bill, the waitress asked what it was for and if it was any good to spend.

I went from there to the counter at the mini mart, same establishment, the counter girl asked the manager if she could take the bills.

the manager knows me gave me a stinky eye and told her that the bills were good, to which the girl said where are they from?

I took my purchase and left the stinky eyed manager to explain it to her employee.



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 Posted 01/23/2010  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lilaznkev1n to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow I'm not even American and I know who Benjamin Franklin is...
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 Posted 01/23/2010  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GFR3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Being the guy who takes your money at starbucks, I see this sorta thing all the time. I pay for most of my studd with halfs, dollar coins, and the like purposefully so I can hand the stuff out as change (try to stimulate interest ya know?). My basic rule of thumb is to never give these "wierd" coins to the 20-somethings as these people are clueless. I've had people come back and ask for "real money" or "american money". The best bet is to pass this suff out to eitehr young children with their mothers or to old ladys who tend to give these coins to the grandchildren.

My generation is quite simply retarded but there is hope for the younger ones...
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My basic rule of thumb is to never give these "wierd" coins to the 20-somethings as these people are clueless.
hey I'm a twenty something and I'm not clueless

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 Posted 01/24/2010  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have read the blog and I have read the posts. I do not see any reason why a young person of today should be expected to recognize coinage he or she has never been exposed to before.

We all have differing educational as well as intellectual levels. I don't remember exactly where I learned about Kennedy and Franklin halves, but I am pretty sure it was 'not' in school.

'Every' generation has it's share of dimwits. The young folks singled out above could possibly be included in that group, but not necessarily. It could be more a matter of exposure.

The part about being oblivious to Ben Franklin's existence 'does' indicate something troublesome about that particular individual though. I would imagine that he is still at least mentioned a few times in a basic twelve year curriculum. Probably this person is more knowledgeable of topics other than history.

The US Government decides the mintage of each denomination based on demand. Silver dollars and halves have virtually no basis for existence in today's economic marketplace. We live in a society of pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters, and that is it (other than paper money and credit/debit cards).
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never give these "wierd" coins to the 20-somethings as these people are clueless. I've had people come back and ask for "real money" or "american money"


That is so true. I have gotten some really hostile reactions from clerks at shops when I have used dollar coins here in the States. But this just encourages me to use them more so that I can expose more people to them.
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I had a buddy who wanted to know if I wanted some " Indian pennies" that he had and knew that they were different so he thought I might want them. He ended up bringing over about 5 Sacagawea dollars. Of course I should have gave him a nickel to pay him for the 5 " Indian pennies" he just gave me. Anyhow I told him they were $1 coins and he thought only the presidents were on dollar coins. I was actually surprised he know that there were Presidential dollar coins. Lots of people just don't know or care beyond the regular cents, nickels, dimes, and quarters. It will be interesting to see how many people think the new 2010 penny is some kind of fake...
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Bottom line, regardless if the girl is educated with this or that If your gonna work a position where you have to work cash transactions, she should at least know what she can and cannot take as payment.
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Bottom line, regardless if the girl is educated with this or that If your gonna work a position where you have to work cash transactions, she should at least know what she can and cannot take as payment.
True! I've had many cashiers come to me AFTER they have taken money that they were unfamiliar with. The money LOOKED good to them. (I gladly took it off their hands) I for one am glad that there are plenty of people out there that aren't knowledgeable with US coins and currency. If everybody was savvy then there would be nothing in circulation for us roll searchers to find!
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A cashier is only as smart as the manager that trains them.
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Can't put all of the blame on the manager.

What about parents and schools as well?

Government does not help either use of the half dollar and dollar coins are not common.

Since dollar coins are not seen often and now we have ones with different US presidents and diffent native american design, how would an average person who does not collect coins get exposed to all of the different ones.

Add to this all of the different quarter reverses (but at least George Washington is on the front of all of them).

Sounds like information overload to me.

Ken
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hey I'm a twenty something and I'm not clueless


me too Scott! lol


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A cashier is only as smart as the manager that trains them.


Very true. I've trained the other baristas to set aside all the wierd stuff so I can look through them heheh
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Don't blame the educational system or the store managers. It is the fault of the government who makes this stuff at tax payer expense only to hoard it up in federal vaults for years. If they would put forth a genuine effort to circulate the "weird stuff" In a few years these denominations would become main stream coin and currency. That is after the non collectors had hoarded up so much of it that they will need to get rid of some and maybe actually pare down the hoard into a semi bonafide collection. I know several people who put the "golden dollars" into large gars and save them because "you just don't see may of these around" Another reason is "they don't make many of these" and the best of all is the one a guy told me early on in 2009........."Because the price of gold is gonna keep going up and these will be worth a lot of money when it does."
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