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MS62 RB, cleaned. The copper formate spots around the Y in Liberty are signs of an old cleaning.
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Why does one spot on a coin that's almost 70 years old constitute cleaning.Not being wise here but I really don't know.just trying to learn
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Thad,
When you refer to this coin being cleaned do you mean that maybe it was dipped? There are no hairlines like you would traditionally see on a coin that has been cleaned.
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I just assumed it was the picture.
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Just because there's no hairlines doesn't mean it hasn't been cleaned. I can't say how it was cleaned, but I think it was a long time ago. Some of the older dips left residual formic acid on the surface and that caused copper formate to develop. It's always the same sign, an indistinct, black spot that resembles mold. Plus, the surfaces just don't look right to me.
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Not sure how your coming up with MS? I would say that it is an AU-58, what bothers me is the high spots have been rubbed/worn then it has retoned(dipped in retoner). It is a nice coin I just dont see it making 63/64/65 with that area of retoneing and spots..just my quess?
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Have watched this one off and on and am still not sure of my opinion, that is why I have not responded to date. I think I am ready, now.
First, I see what appears to be a lot of wear on the collar and lapel by the tie. No way this coin can go better than high AU if this is accurate.
Second, there seems to be a distinct change in the toning along the rim on the obverse (getting darker) which seems backwards. To me, typically as a coin loses it's luster it starts in the fields and works it's way toward the rim and devises where it is more protected.
Third, the toning on the obverse seem artificial and the field in front of Lincoln's face shows surface ? something? Still, if dipped there should be signs of same on the reverse and I see none.
Pics can be so misleading, though. this is the type of coin you really need to see in hand.
Jim
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This coin jumped out at me when I sat down at the dealers table and screamed buy me! Looking at it now in the Dansco I must say it looks really nice.
Having said all that this one may end up being a learning experience for me as I paid MS64 money for it. The dealer had it marked GEM BU. In hand I really do not see signs of circulation. The luster appears consistent throughout the coin so my (i will admit) biased opinion is that its Unc. That may be denial talking. I don't know.
However it does appear that the consensus is that this coin has been dipped, cleaned or altered in some way which is something I strive to stay away from.
Oh well its money under the bridge now and still looks good.
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The cheek and upper jaw are discolored. Is that not from wear (AU)?
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Seeing the difference between MS and AU on a borderline coin has been the hardest thing for me to learn. Especially because a weak strike and wear can sometimes look similar.
Sometimes when I'm looking at coins in slabs, I feel like the decision was made (pardon the pun) by a coin-toss.
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