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Hello,Can anyone tell if this 1956 D&S cent is the same coin Coneca once had listed as OMM-001? I was in contact with Brad at The Lincoln Resource and he said from what he could tell from the poor image I sent it was, but from the images of the OMM-001 that I've seen the S on mine appears to be positioned higher.Sorry about the image but I'm new at this.  |
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Coppercoins doesn't list any markers just that a faint S can be seen between the 1 and 9.their image shows the base of the S slightly below the base of the nine and the base of the S on my coin is even with the 9.maybe there is more than one type but I can't find it listed.thanks for the info though. I'm totally new to collecting varieties and I need all the help I can get.
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The area in question to me seems like it is fading older die scratches. The mint mark shape is different than the one I had an image of. The location looks close, but an image of the whole date and mint mark might help. The 1956 date has a very high tip on the 6 and tends to throw off lining it up horizontally. A wider shot would help me determine the mint mark location better than the image above. With all the digits showing I can get a better idea of the location of the D mint mark. That would help at this point. I'll check back to see the progress.
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Thanks, I'll try to get a better image and post it.You could be right about die scratches too.Maybe I've spent too much time staring at this coin.
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This is definitely NOT the OMM. It's not the right shape, it's not in exactly the right place, and the other scratches do not exist on the OMM.
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Sorry about the image but I'm new at this That is a great photo, give yourself more credit. John1  |
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I found 2 of this type coin in 50.00 of Fed rolled 1956 D penny's. James Wiles of CONECA has rejected this type of a coin as an error. It is listed as a WD MM-001 and is referred to by John Wexler. Has you have 1 and I have 2 and John Wexler must have one. CONECA may some day may recognize it. As it is not a clash I have no idea how it came to be and that is most likely the reason it is not a recognized error by CONECA. Maybe Mr Diamond will chime in on this one.  I will add one of my photos to your post  |
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Twohawks: That's not one of them either. Wrong die. You have a normal 1956D cent there.
While James Wiles might have rejected the 1956D OMM as a die variety (it never was considered an error by anyone), there are others who still remain convinced enough to list it, myself included.
Additionally, just because an attributor has a die listed in their files does NOT mean they own one. It only means they have examined and photographed the die. I do not own an example of every single die listed on coppercoins.com, and James Wiles does not own an example of every single die listed with CONECA. Many of these dies are listed through collector submissions of single coins that are returned to the collector after examination.
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Understood, as far as the attributors not owning the coin. Sorry my bad. On the one I posted it looks like a dead match of the one on CONECA's web site about 1/4 down as you scroll. But I could be mistaken, as I am a guy and guys are never wrong "just mistaken!"
Note is that your fruit salad? on the botom.
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If you are referring to the medals - yes.
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And as for the coin - you are unfortunately mistaken. I have found nearly two dozen of the actual OMM in various die states and various grades over the years. I know very well what they look like, and you don't have it in that image. The following are two examples I own of this die in varying die state...   |
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Thanks, Looking at your photos you are right. Yours is with out a doubt not PMD or a strange die polishing. It still wonder why Coneca will not list this type. The one I posted runs into the (1) |
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Nice images you 2.Twohawks,I have a few 1956D cents that look like yours and I've been curious if the artifact running through the upper portion of the nine is,I think it's damage to the die but I'm far from an expert.As for your images coppercoins I'm not sure about the upper photo but it sure looks like there's the lower portion of an S with the serif showing on the lower one.
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CONECA did originally list this die, but upon further study, James Wiles could not figure out how an S mintmark fit the shape on the die, so he delisted it. I subsequently found the answer...the S shape is up-side down. What you're seeing is actually the TOP loop of an S punched into the die up-side down.
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What you're seeing is actually the TOP loop of an S punched into the die up-side down. We are talking about over to the left of the tail of the nine, correct? So that is not a complete "S", but only half of it? I can imagine an entire (upside down) "S" on the lower picture, but it would be too small I suppose. |
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