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Mint Sets With The White Envelope

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 Posted 04/04/2010  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saruma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems odd that he won't open it. That envelope isn't the important "sealed" part anyway. The cellophane wrapper is. ebay buyers do strange things so maybe he's correct in thinking that people will pay a premium for a coin set so untouched that even the paper envelope wasn't opened. But I wouldn't buy it. I fully agree with the idea that humidity is what sealed it. I just got many of my proof sets back from my parents house after 15 years and some of them had sealed themselves in their original envelopes.

I have a proof set (1959 I think) that has a tiny spot on the Franklin. It looks like a little bit of toning, but I suspect it happened in the mint as the spot hasn't changed in my 20 years of owning it. Even if his story about the envelope being sealed by the mint was true you could still end up with a defective set due to mint error.
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In his description under material it says "silver"! What in a 69 mint set is silver? I think I would pass on it too!
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The half would be silver clad.That's it.
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I got some coins from my grandmothers estate and I know the 1964 mint set or proof set, whatever it is I cannot remember, is in a white envelope and its sealed but I dont know if it left the mint that way or not. I've never even opened it to see if it happens to have the accented hair Kennedy half or not.
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 Posted 04/05/2010  07:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Force, I notice he has 10 of these sets available. I wonder if all ten sets are sealed.

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From the e-mail I got it would appear they are all sealed. The seller probably thinks it will lose value if he opens them. I would just bust the set open anyways. Whats the point of having coins you can't see?
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Also,my 69 mint sets were in manila colored envelopes with the date on the front bottom from the mint.

I don't think I have ever seen a post 64 set, proof or mint that wasn't in a white envelope.


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I got some coins from my grandmothers estate and I know the 1964 mint set or proof set, whatever it is I cannot remember, is in a white envelope and its sealed but I dont know if it left the mint that way or not.
same thing in reverse, I don't think I have ever seen a pre 65 set that wasn't in a manila envelope.


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From the e-mail I got it would appear they are all sealed. The seller probably thinks it will lose value if he opens them. I would just bust the set open anyways. Whats the point of having coins you can't see?

A lot of collectors will pay a premium for sets in sealed envelope under the belief that the sets inside have never been picked over and they have a better chance of finding cameos or high quality sets as compared to sets with open envelopes. A lot of "smart" operators know this and will cherry pick their sets, then seal the envelopes and sell the dross to those believers in sealed sets at a premium price. I have even seen "sealed" sets that when they opened contained a card with Washers attached to approximate the weight of the coins. This can be done because often the sealed sets are sold from one wholesaler to another with no one ever opening them. Have also seen "sealed 1970 mint sets that when opened had had the 70-D half dollar removed and ten the envelope sealed. Buying a sealed set is a pig in a poke and I would never do it.
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Just had two 1968 sets arrive in the mail yesterday, neither sealed (as expected). One of the quarters looks terrible though, as if somehow, there is some growth in the western field on the obverse. There are about 5 spots there.....

None of the mint sets I have from 64-70 are sealed.
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My only caution is for those of you with unsealed sets from that era is "DON'T LICK THE ENVELOPES!"

(The Seinfeld fans in the audience can appreciate that one.)
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Buying a sealed set is a pig in a poke and I would never do it.
I agree. If feel the same about "original bank rolls" as well. I want to see what I am buying; I am not a gambler.

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The Seinfeld fans in the audience can appreciate that one
"Does anyone think George might have murdered Susan?"
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I don't know I don't buy mint sets.
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I too collect Mint/Proof sets, I have both from 1953 to date, proof, 54 to date mint set.
I believe the only way the mint sealed a mint/proof set was when the envelope was sealed, the address written on the envelope and mailed, with the envelope stamped from the post office, and another stamp from the Mint on the envelope stating "the post master has full permission to open and inspect the envelope.I do NOT believe the envelopes were sealed under any other conditions!! Except over time , stored under the conditions allowing the glue to seal the envelope.

I have many sets that were sealed, but all have an address and the person who ordered the set, their name on the envelope.....

I have seen blue envelopes known as " souvenir sets " for the few years, only sold from the mint sales shops 1982, 1983 and some others also.....just my observations, Mike....
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