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Hi guys. I haven't been on here lately, as I have been busy. By looking at ebay, I have seen NGC, in my opinion, grade coins extremely accurately AND consistently, and grades as close to The Official A.N.A Grading Standards For United States coins (my favorite grading guide)as I have seen from a third-party grading service. No About Good-3 bearing a Good-4 label as with PCGS or ANACS. What is your opinion on NGC, and when I purchase my 1916D mercury, is this a good TPG to buy? Please reply. - coincrazed
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You have to wait till I get mine first. LOL!
I like NGC. No issues with them yet.
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Nothing wrong with PCGS or ANACS. I personally prefer PCGS, because of their grading and holders.
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I too prefer PCGS, always have. Submitted my first coin to them in 1993. NGC is just as excellent a grading service in my opinion although I like PCGS's holders much better. It's more a personal preference. On scarcer type coins, in terms of the market, these would be the ones to have your coins housed in.
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Personally I like NGC slabs the best. As far as PCGS and NGC they are both excellent TPG'S
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What is better about PCGS slabs than NGC slabs? Could you please explain? sturdier? Fire-proof? Please tell! Since I'm not 18 and can't own a safety deposit box, I want one in the best slab. In Good-4 condition, PCGS grades ok. It's in grades like Fine-12 and higher that they do a pretty crappy job. - coincrazed
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It's mostly the design and look of PCGS slabs. I personally think PCGS grades well, having seen tons of PCGS coins. That's why PCGS is more poplar and commands more respect overall.
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I've looked at many lower end AG-3 to G-6 1916-d dimes for my set as well(still considering several purchases). From what I have seen, NGC seems to be overall the strictest graders for this date. Though there will be "dog" coins in slabbed from all of the TPGs, I think you would mostly likely be able to find a high-end G-4 in an NGC slab. I don't think NGC is the best for coins overall, but for this particular date/type, I believe they are. This is just my opinion.
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You are going to buy several 1916Ds?!? WOW! Yes, I agree, NGC does grade 1916D dimes quite well. I might just buy one of those and forget PCGS. Have you actually looked at them or just on ebay? Thanks for the advice. - coincrazed
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Or perhaps you should look at all the 1916-D's you can and buy what you know is a nice G-4, not because NGC says it is. When I buy anything certified, I grade it by my own standards, and I don't pay G-4 money even though PCGS or NGC says it is, if I think it's an AG-3.
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You are going to buy several 1916Ds?!? WOW! Yes, I agree, NGC does grade 1916D dimes quite well. I might just buy one of those and forget PCGS. Have you actually looked at them or just on ebay? Thanks for the advice. - coincrazed


LOL, sorry, poor wording on my part. There are several 16-ds I have been considering, but will only purchase one eventually. I used to have a strong NGC AG-3, but I sold it.

I wouldn't say to completely ignore all other TPGs. As wheatguy said, buy the coin, not the holder. I only mean that I have seen way more "strong for the grade" 16ds in NGC slabs than I have PCGS or ANACS slabs; though there have been strong ones in those slabs too.
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IMHO, I have no problem with the grading standards of PCGS, NGC, or ANACS. I know that the market values PCGS coins higher. But I really don't see the justification for that in the actual grading.

No where is that more apparent than for NGC coins. NGC is a highly respected service that has consistently graded coins very accurately. In fact, I've seen PCGS coins where I really questioned the grade assigned, and the same coins in NGC that were more accurate. Yet, the NGC coins are selling for lower prices! That's just a market bias that is not really justified, IMHO.

In fact, you can use that to your advantage. Purchase NGC coins for lower prices, and for the higher priced pieces, you can cross to PCGS and I bet it'll get the same grade, and since PCGS is selling higher, you just increased your value.

I like to collect both NGC and PCGS for most of my coins. But when I have varieties or problem coins, I always send those to ANACS; they do best with varieties and problems.

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To me, it doesn't matter about the holder, just the coin itself. That being said, there are some significant differences in the grading philosophies between NGC and PCGS in some series. Examples of this are the Roosevelt dimes and Franklin half dollars. In these series, I prefer NGC standards as they are more strict on designating a full torch for the Roosevelts vs. the PCGS full band designation. In the Franklins same thing on the full bell line designation.
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Why is it that NGC slabs won't fit in the AMOS brand plastic slab boxes? ICG, PCGS, and the others....no problem.
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Why is it that NGC slabs won't fit in the AMOS brand plastic slab boxes?


NGC slabs are slightly taller than PCGS/ANACS/ICG slabs. This has driven me crazy more than once!

I believe AMOS makes a box that will hold NGC slabs, and of course this taller box will hold the other slabs, but they will be a bit of a loose fit.

I finally broke down and bought an "official" NGC box on ebay for about $12.
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Actually, the Amos box is tall enough, the slots just aren't wide enough. Can't argue for 7 bucks. A Dremmel is a wonderful tool to use on the box tabs/spacers.
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