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I will be attending my first coin show on the 24th of April. I was told that they are limiting the amount of dealers to 25 so I have no idea if it is a small or medium size show. I have a idea what I am looking for and have a Graysheet to take with me. My question is when I look at the Garysheet and see bid-ask is that the range I should try and buy the coin for? I am a little confused with the numbers. I am really looking forward to it and plan on posting what I saw and learned at the show. Thanks, Edited by Wornslick 04/25/2010 10:10 am
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Yes, most dealers will let you get coins for the Greysheet Ask and Bid. You'll see many collectors and dealers with them. However, the Greysheet isn't perfect, so try to rely on what you know about whatever you want to buy. Knowing more about a series generally makes you aware of what a good price to pay is.
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I always recommend to take a walk through of all the tables unless you see something that is a screaming deal. Have fun and good luck!
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Thanks for the advice. I collect slabbed Morgans and MS Franklins so they are the ones I am looking for, also proof SAE's I am really excited about this, I have been reading up on the Morgans using the RedBook on them. I just started my collection on Franklins but have been using the other RedBook for those.
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Quote: I always recommend to take a walk through of all the tables unless you see something that is a screaming deal. I agree. Get a feel for the layout and keep notes (even if just mental) on what you find.
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Quote: Yes, most dealers will let you get coins for the Greysheet Ask and Bid So if the price they have on a coin is above the Ask - Bid price do I try and haggle or tell him about the grey sheet price. Never done this before and I do want to be out of line. Also the greysheet I have is from Feburary. 
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How exciting! You are going to love it. I always get a overwhelming feeling and end up exhausted at the concession stand when I am done. I am mentally drained and like to have a seat and unwind and eat a Bar B Q or something and sit and listen to people coming and going. I do what the others say. Take a walk around, be polite and make mental notes of the coins that really stand out and where you saw them. The whole show might look overwhelming when you walk in but after you tour, you'll be narrowing down what you can buy and what you'll have to pass up on. Some coins you might like might be such a screaming good deal that they might be gone when you go back to buy it. Oh well, that's how the ball bounces. Just ask yourself, will I have a chance to see another or will it be a long time until the chance comes again, depending on what you let sitting there until you've made your rounds. Walking around and looking also is a good time to quietly listen to the talking of others. It helps you get a feel for how the show is going for the dealers and you can listen to others haggle before you give it a try. Mostly have fun! Take what money you plan to spend and do the best you can with it. Don't buy anything that makes you focus on the flaws instead of what is good about it instead.
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Thanks to everyone for the advice. 4 more days, the excitement is building.
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Going to try to hit my first coin show this weekend as well (Greenhills Classic Coin & Stamp Show - Cincinnati, OH area) Looking forward to it, going to try not to spend too much (gulp)
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Quote: 4 more days, the excitement is building. I envy you.  My next local coin show is a few months away. There is one the first weekend of May. It would be almost three hours round trip for me and there are external forces conspiring against my desire to go.
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Bedrock of the Community
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25 dealers is sort of a small, normal sized local coin show. Usually those are dealers from the area so you could get to know them personally. That actually helps with prices. Rememeber that there is no manufacturers suggested list price on a coin. They are what people will pay for them. Also, remember that a coin show, or almost any type of such shows are just specialized flea markets. By this I mean you should consider haggling prices for everything. Many dealers know this and have raised their prices from 10% to as much as 25%. It's sort of the same game people play buying a house, used car, etc. They ask xxxx and you counter with xxxx. Again, they come back with xxxx and again you counter until everyone is happy with the price. Now if the dealer orginally raised his prices by 20% and you haggled him down by 20%, your happy and he got what he wanted. This means the Grey Sheet, Red Book, Numismedia, prices are for people that just don't know how to play the game. Most dealers will pull out the grey sheet when you say is that your lowest price. In many, many instances that is like a used car salesman saying I have to check with my manager for that price. They really know what they want for a coin and will play all sorts of games if a normal, seasoned dealer. The main thing is to know what YOU want, how much YOU want to spend, how badly YOU want what you see.
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Thanks for the info just carl. I am studying the RedBook and the Greysheets right now.
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Bedrock of the Community
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One last bit of advise and hopefully not to late since that show is almost here. Security. By that I mean to be carefull. Keep wallets in front pockets. Do not carry a back pack. If you carry any kind of item such as a handbag, if bumped, recheck right away. If your bumped, check all pockets too. Be real carefull paying for anything. Do not use a check or crdit card unless you really feel it necessary. And if you do, check to see no one is standing over you with a camera phone. When leaving that show, make sure sure your not followed. Let us know how it all comes out.
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The advice so far is right on....these guys know what they are talking about.You may be overwhelmed at first but that is normal. When going try to limit your potential buys to a few specific coins.For a first time visitor this will help you narrow down your searching,plus narrow down the price range of these particular coins. Since the show has 25 or so dealers I would walk look at each dealers coins to see what they are offering. make a note of the one's that have the coins you are looking for and then compare the coins.Seems tedious but it is a learning experiencing to build upon.
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Personally, I wouldn't use the Red Book. You will see very few collectors and dealers with them, as it is usually very overpriced. It truly depends on the coin. Generally speaking, Greysheet is somewhat accurate but if a coin is grossly overpriced, you should be able to tell without looking at the Greysheet. Use it as a guide but do not try haggling just to get Ask or Bid price. Most dealers will have the coins at Bid/Ask prices anyways, and it is fine to haggle, as long as you don't ask for ridiculously low prices to the point of offending the dealer.
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Quote: Most dealers will have the coins at Bid/Ask prices anyways Must be nice...never seen that around here.
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