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French-1821-Silver?
I have been unable to find any info on this coin. It is about 32mm in dia. It has two dates. One seems to be "decouvertre en 1717". Discovered in 1717? The other is roman numerals for 1821. Any info would be helpful. Thanks, trcmedic
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quote:
Originally posted by trcmedic

http://cervo.smugmug.com/photos/79530732-S.jpg
I have been unable to find any info on this coin. It is about 32mm in dia. It has two dates. One seems to be "decouvertre en 1717". Discovered in 1717? The other is roman numerals for 1821. Any info would be helpful. Thanks, trcmedic


Here's the french coin uploaded direct to the CCF for trcmedic.
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Welcome to the CC forum trcmedic.

Hope you have a great time here with us.

Cannot identify coins but I am sure someone here may be able to help.

Would help if picture were larger
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I would say it is commemerating something and is likely newer than 1821 just by the way the coin was made ( I could be wrong ). I think it might be a medal of some sort. When you flip the the coin from the edge, does the front (obverse) line up with the back (reverse)?
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Thanks for the welcome! dsking is helping me load photos. I'll try for bigger pics. If US coins line up on vertical flip, this coin lines up on a horizontal flip.
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Sounds like a French medal (I don't recognise it as a coin).

Try running the inscriptions through the Babel Fish Translator. It's not 100% accurate and is easily confused, but it should give you some idea on the reason for issue of the medal. You do need to include all the accent marks when typing in the French words.

My opinion: it seems to have something to do with mining. "Decouverte" is indeed French for "discovery". It looks like some king of mining scene on one side; I assime it's celebrating some kind of precious mineral discovered and dug up since 1717. A silver mine, maybe?
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There was a Larghe Gold mine in the 1700's discovered in France and many people were sent to work there as order of King Louis iix.

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Should be a Medal commemorating find of maybe gold, I could be wrong.
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quote:
Originally posted by scoutjim99

I would say it is commemerating something and is likely newer than 1821 just by the way the coin was made ( I could be wrong ). I think it might be a medal of some sort. When you flip the the coin from the edge, does the front (obverse) line up with the back (reverse)?



The so called coin or medal strike
Many countries do just the opposite so I do not bother to look since I cannot remember which country does what
Belgium even has an A and B position for the rim lettering
some bringing much more money then the other

If it is a coin apart from the sovereign and the kruger it should have a value on it in my limited knowledge
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I tried to look but it is only 72 dpi out of focus
So I cannot read the text
I think it is a modern medal

I speak french ; if you type the text I will translate
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It seems modern. We need larger pics though!

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Text reads" DESANDROUIN TAFFIN ET COMP. AUTEURS DE LA DECOUVERTE EN 1717" and "MINES D'ANZIN, FRESNES, VIEUX-CONDE * DEPARTEMENT DU NORD"[img] uploaded/trcmedic/200675104323_Coin French 1821 side 1.jpg uploaded/trcmedic/200675104426_Coin French 1821 side 2.jpg[img]
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I'm having a heck of a time with photo postings. I'll keep trying.
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YEAH! Next I'll work on two photos /one reply. Till then here's side 2.French-1821-Silver?
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I have found Anzin to be a town in the "Department of the North. Zone 59"
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quote:
Originally posted by trcmedic


Text reads" DESANDROUIN TAFFIN ET COMP. AUTEURS DE LA DECOUVERTE EN 1717" and "MINES D'ANZIN, FRESNES, VIEUX-CONDE * DEPARTEMENT DU NORD"[img] uploaded/trcmedic/200675104323_Coin French 1821 side 1.jpg uploaded/trcmedic/200675104426_Coin French 1821 side 2.jpg[img]



A certain DESANDROUIN TAFFIN and compagnons are the instigators of the Discovery in 1717
Mines are located in the following villages ANZIN, FRESNES, VIEUX-CONDE
Department of the North (which is presumably close to Belgium )
So yes it is a commem
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Of course I should have known better having worked in the region
This is were the french coalmines are
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