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Alright folks: http://cgi.ebay.com/1876-CC-TRADE-D...130391061185I need some help here. I know it's not very nice, but it certainly fits well into my collection and price range. I checked NGC, and a G should be 200 - this one is pretty beat up, but it seems low at under $90. This may not be a coin I'd keep for too long - I might try to trade up to a nicer one, but this might be a good "foot in the door"? Any thoughts? Please do share! Not long left on the auction... I just stumbled across it. =) |
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After spending a few more minutes poking around, it looks like it may be one of those "copies". I've asked the seller what the weight of this coin is, we shall see. =)
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I personally would avoid any un-certified counterfeit prone coin that is shown with fuzzy pictures. No way that an expert can see enough in those photos to authenticate.
That's my 2 cents FWIW
David
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Delaner-I recently purchased a raw Trade dollar not knowing about how frequently they are conterfietted. After I posted the picture here, the first several responders thought it was conterfeit. I sent the coin to ANACS for grading and it came back authentic (AU58). I was pretty lucky; but to the point-had I known what I know now, I would not have bought a raw Trade dollar. Be careful! and good luck. |
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this one even the pictures don't look good. I know the pictures are blurry as all get out but even in them the design seems to be off a little. I would definitely not buy a Trade dollar by pictures like these because this is one (if not the top) of the most counterfeited US coins out there |
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horrible photos, but a poor quality fake, in my opinion
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jprine, can you post a link to that thread? I'm curious to see your coin. thanks
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Thank you all for the advice! I kinda feel silly for even posting, but I'm glad I asked nonetheless.
Interesting experience jprine! I had made my mind up after reviewing again that I wouldn't buy a non-slabbed 1876-cc since there are so many counterfeits. Interesting point that genuines are still out there and raw. I think I'll stick to a reputably graded coin, if I can. =)
Post script: It sold for $205, a nominal G price... I wouldn't have paid that anyway! Can I get a pcgs or ncg coin for that price? I'm not looking for vf, g is just fine for me. =)
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05/20/2010 02:11 am
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Arriving too late to post a timely comment, I strongly suspect that the "coin" may be a fake. An often telling question to ask the seller is, "What's the weight in grams?" Typically, the fakes are 10-20% underweight. Whereas the genuine coins should weigh in at 27 grams, I've seen some that weighed 21 grams. As the condition of the fakes is generally high, there's not much wear to affect the weight. The best fake I've seen to date weighed about 25 grams. The crooks are getting better at their trade ... I've seen many a dealer who was fooled by even the poorest of these fakes, so I'm not one to point a finger at the seller; this, unless he dodges the question as one seller once did with me.
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Actually, ExoGuy - that's exactly what I did! As soon as I found the auction, I asked the seller. There was only an hour left when I stumbled upon it, but I never did hear an answer. =) I don't blame the seller - there were plenty of serious bidders and it was such a short fuse I don't think anything of it.
Thanks for the advice! Much appreciated. I need to get a scale... =)
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US $205.80 Congratulations! Someone will learn the hard way. Here is where no experience reigns. swcoin.ecrater.com
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Someone is going to be very disappointed.
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jprine, can you post a link to that thread? I'm curious to see your coin. thanks TDColl, here is the link: https://goccf.com/t/62685&SearchTerms=7070I was one of the ones that questioned the authenticity of his 1876-s Trade dollar. I compared it to my 1876-s PCGS AU-55, in which there was a large variance between the thickness of the rim compared to the denticles. I recall reading on cointalk(I think it was actually your thread) about the thickness of the rim being a possible counterfeit indication. The rest of his coin looked authentic to me, so I was 50/50 on it. Fortunately, his turned out to be authentic...  I guess on certain dates then, there is a large variance between the width of the rim compared to the denticles? |
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Wow - great post Johnny... So does that mean there are multiple varieties of the 1876 trade, or?... Should I not trust ANACS graded coins?... or... what?  |
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It wasn't represented well for a $200 coin, and too, high risk for a counterfeit
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