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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Could someone identify what the abnormality could be by the 1 in 1884, arrowed, I have looked on VamWorld but couldn't identify it. Looking straight down on the coin there seems to be something in the top of second 8, but looking at various angles it seems to disappear? The line between the 1 and 8 has also disappeared, may be a bit of fluff?, but the extra bit of metal by the 1 is still definitely there Any help trying to identify it is much appreciated    |
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Pillar of the Community
Turkey
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Looks like a minor die chip.. I have a similar die chipped on the date 1966 halfcrown too.
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United States
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The arrowed item appears to be a die break. A break is the natural progression of a die crack. You can see the crack on the left side of the '1'. The circled item is indeed a die chip. I traced the crack in this pic.  |
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United States
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b17, how about a close up of the mint mark? Appears to be I of the O/Os.
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 United Kingdom
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 United States
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Well, there's one advantage here. Only 4 VAM's are listed with the round O mint mark, which narrows things down quite a bit for you. Of them, I like VAM-51 best for your coin. If you can do one of your excellent micro shots of the ear, we might be able to make the attribution firm. This would be a later die state of the VAM, with the die having cracked. I don't believe the break from the 1 would be significant enough to inspire designation as a subvariety. |
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United Kingdom
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As requested.  |
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United States
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Inconclusive, unfortunately, due to wear and lighting. Have a look here: http://www.vamworld.com/1884-O+Round+O+ReversesIf you were to rotate the coin 90 degrees, we might get something conclusive from the inside of the ear. It's currently washed out. The outside doubling *might* be there, but that's an area which could be obscured by wear. |
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United States
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b17 and SuperDave, I've eliminated 27 & 51 because of date position. 18 also eliminated, no dash under second 8. Mint mark is not doubled as it appears in first pictures. That only leaves 1. VAM 2. Of course this is only an opinion because no date position picture is shown for VAM 2. |
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b17 and SuperDave, I've eliminated 27 & 51 because of date position. The date position is what got me started thinking VAM-51 - it's exact.  |
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United States
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Could be Dave. I'll surrender if b17 can get us a clear shot of the ear without the light glare.
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United Kingdom
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United States
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Tough call on this one. I see what appears to be some doubling on the inner ear in the first picture. Don't see it in the last three pictures. What does the commander think about the ear? The doubling on the inner ear should be easy to see with the coin in hand.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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I'm no expert in this field, as I have only been collecting coin for about a year (Morgans are the only ones I collect at the moment). Comparing this coin to the others I have, I can't see any doubling?
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United States
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Yeah, I think we rule out VAM-51. By the process of elimination, then, it's VAM-2.
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United States
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Dave & b17, couldn't let this one rest till I saw a date position on the VAM 2. Went to the bank and did some digging. Date  Die crack on 1 and 8. Perfect match, just earlier die state.  Extra metal between eagles neck and left wing.  I agree, VAM 2. |
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