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You have a better chance of winning the lotto 5 times and getting hit by lightning 5 times than to have a 1974 aluminum cent. I think the odds may even be worse than that...  |
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LOL to you guys, I understand its hard to believe. You dont have to. Just wondering how good this site for me...I will show a picture soon. Thank you! for the nice people here. Oh they of little faith!  Tell you a little bit of wisdom. There's an obscure philosopher, Pareto, who did most of his creative work in Switzerland, and, in his later years, reluctantly accepted a post under Mussolini. He cites an example of a Greek crew, in ancient times, sacrificing to Poseidon, the god of the sea, before they set sail on a dangerous voyage. We, today, would be willing to accept the notion that there's no possible proof of Poseidon's existence. Yet, says Pareto, it's clear that, if, under the influence of the belief they had put themselves right with Poseidon, the crew rowed more heartily, maintained better discipline, and stuck together better under the pressure of danger, then, clearly, the belief in Poseidon was useful to them, and, in a sense, true. If you understand, great find, that's one genuine 1974 aluminum cent you got there!  |
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Bryan, Pardon the faux pas on the Liberty nickel.  No excuse, but have been messing around with a small bag of Shield nickel (junk more or less) trying to decide what to do with them. A mental slip, but a slip none the less. The gears in this 56 yr old tranny are pretty worn. I really wonder if the govt would destroy them, today. They are trying to generate as much interest as they can in collecting to drive mint profits and consider the excitement and tax dollars this coin would generate. Just ruminating. Jim |
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steve199, the difference is one was made for circulation and was known to have gotten out of the mint before they knew they were even minted so they were legal to own. The 1974 aluminum cent was just prototype and never meant to leave the mint and circulate, just to show what it would look like and such, so it has and always will be Govt property and the only way any could exist is if they were illegally taken from the Govt property. Quote:
What if they really were, as some stories say, snuck out of the mint? This is my guess (and only an guess) once they realized some of the 1913 Liberty head nickels had been minted they started looking for them and never found them on the mints property whether they had been snuck out or released into circulation some other way they didn't know. Since they couldn't say we have them all here and am going to melt them down instead of sending them out like they did with the 33 St gaudens they were deemed legal to own. As I said this is just my theory and I really have no proof that this is what happened just what makes since to me since there are two different coins that came to be in about the same fashion, yet one of these they had them All that had been minted in a locker (and we all know they had them all in there since they were minted before the actual date, and all was caught before they ever went into circulation) and those were deemed illegal to own, and yet then the other was minted for circulation but yet also wasn't supposed to be minted but yet they were deemed legal to own Quote:
I really wonder if the govt would destroy them, today. They are trying to generate as much interest as they can in collecting to drive mint profits and consider the excitement and tax dollars this coin would generate. Just ruminating. I don't know, as far as I know the one that was graded by ICG has never been confiscated but also don't even know if ICG would ever release the name of the owner (it was said they wouldn't but I find that a little hard to believe if the Govt is pushing them to tell someones name). So we know there has been at least one that is out there and has been graded and authenticated by a legitimate third party grading company. I would think a coin as this, the history of this coin would probably be known from time of existence all the way down. Not just found on the ground or in some change. Like the capital police officer that received one from a US Congressman in a parking garage after he had dropped it on the ground and tried to return it to him and he told him to keep it. This is the one that was certified by ICG so if there are others exist I am sure they know the pedigree of this coin all throughout its life |
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Pearlapik,
You have received very sound advise here and your coin is most assuredly not aluminum. Still, don't give up your research until you know for sure. There are a number of good coin dealers in your area that could authenticate your coin. Please excuse the skepticism of the guys. They have seen a number of people arrive here with tales from the wild. They are good members and care for and help others as they grow their hobby. Please stick around.
Now, fellas, whezzydog is right. Pealapik, as all of us, deserves to be treated with respect. If by chance he is not what he represents, it will come to light soon enough. Until such time, we should welcome him, understand the pain his family is suffering and the beauty of what his child did. There is not a person on the forum that has not made a huge collecting blunder. If you haven't, I will go find you the first stone to cast.
Jim
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Eddiespin,
I felt like this is some kind of highschool forum getting bullied, where are the teachers/principal? Dont go outside when theres thunder & lightning it might strike. Thank you for sweet liitle Greek story. So what will you really do ,if you found out that you have the genuine 1974 aluminum cents !! I will still be in this forum till I send a picture. Its nice to talk abt it. I'm not a avid coin collector, but I have beautiful old coins. If did not have this rare penny, I will not even be in this forum.
Pearl
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Jim,
Thank you for some understanding & Welcoming msg. I have no intent'n to bring my coin to any coin dealer, its not a wise thing, nope... when time is right , to the appropriate like PCGS. Pain & suffering is history now, its time to move on....Just everyone practice The Golden Rule. Thank you!
Pearla
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06/25/2010 12:37 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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That is the problem with coins like this. Even if I were to find my own 1974 aluminum penny, and it was genuine, no one would believe me because it would be impossible to verify the authenticity of the coin.
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where are the teachers/principal? Right here. You've already met another of us. The rest are monitoring, whether you see them or not. In the nearly 5 years I've been a member here, we have heard a story like yours roughly once every two weeks. Not one of them has panned out. Not one. I would hope that you would better understand some of the responses, in that context. Consider, also, the varying nature of people. We all come from differing backgrounds, cultures and experience sets; some of us communicate in ways far differing than others. It is very likely that some of the comments you view as negative were not meant by the poster to be perceived as such. With this in mind, a prerequisite for the enjoyment of an online community such as this is a somewhat thick skin - we cannot, and will not, hammer every member here into our specific behavioral mold. We can't, because we (the Admins/Mods) don't agree on it ourselves. I will say, for the record, that there is a minuscule but non-zero chance that the coin you hold is genuine. They are not all accounted for. Please understand, though, that you are communicating with people whose hobby (obsession) is very much about precision and knowledge. Fakes, frauds and well-intentioned but misinformed collectors are all very common. We must treat every potential "big thing" in a manner similar the practice of law - proof is everything. The alternative is to allow, through failure to do due diligence, the potential for huge financial fraud. That's not happening on our watch. It is unlikely, then, that you will hear any words of encouragement other than faith-based until fact-based proof is tendered, and it's my hope that you will understand why. |
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Eddiespin,
I felt like this is some kind of highschool forum getting bullied, where are the teachers/principal? Dont go outside when theres thunder & lightning it might strike. Thank you for sweet liitle Greek story. So what will you really do ,if you found out that you have the genuine 1974 aluminum cents ! I will still be in this forum till I send a picture. Its nice to talk abt it. I'm not a avid coin collector, but I have beautiful old coins. If did not have this rare penny, I will not even be in this forum.
Pearl My pleasure and I'm glad to see my little bit at philosophizing resonated with you. And...  |
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I will still be in this forum till I send a picture. A picture would be nice, but the weight would be much more telling. Quote:
So what will you really do ,if you found out that you have the genuine 1974 aluminum cents ! I would consider myself to be in an interesting dilemma. If I didn't have a scale, I would get my hands within a day. If that test passed, I might become friends with an attorney. :) You shouldn't feel bullied just because some folks have shared the truth with you...that the odds of you having one are *SO* incredibly small. You also have to understand the number of folks that blow through here with a story like yours, but never provide any evidence, and disappear to never be heard from again. If you somehow *do* have one, you would have quite a story on your hands. If it turned out that yours is not genuine, but you hang around here anyway, you would still set yourself apart (better) than the others who have come before you. |
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it would be impossible to verify the authenticity of the coin. I don't believe that is true. |
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I don't believe that is true. Rather easily done, with the proper equipment and knowledge, I should think. Of course, does anyone know the precise chemical composition of the aluminum used in those Cents? |
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Pillar of the Community
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Here is a post on how to turn a penny into a silver colored 'aluminum' penny. Google how to do it and hundreds of other videos are available. http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-t...lver-170448/I believe there is another example of the true aluminum penny in the Smithsonian's coin collection. Can anyone confirm this? |
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What I am saying Superdave, is that there would be no way to differentiate an authentic 1974 aluminum from a well made homemade 1974 aluminum, since there is only 1 sample to compare it against. Note that by homemade, I don't mean plating a regular 1974, but rather making your own die and planchet)
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06/25/2010 3:45 pm
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