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Would Someone Be So Cruel. Need Help On A 1987 Sae

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I won this 1987 SAE for $24.50 in the last 6 sec. The seller assured me nothing was wrong with the coin in the slightest way. Its a flawless brilliant coin like the picture shows. Any problems send it back. Well coin gets here today and its in one of those small orange envelopes that you push the little tabs to each other side to close it. It was taped good. But I could clearly feel the coin. I oould run my finger around the edge. I open the tabs lift the top and see the packing list is stapled to the envelope the po is stapled to the packing list. I get the one side free and slide out a coin that was folded over in one sheet of white paper. with 6 staples around it. I manage to get it out of the pc of paper. The coin is almost perfect. Whats holding it back is the dress right at her abdomen. I feel like their is something their. Also ever so slightly her right breast and right thigh. When I looked at it under a scope it has the lightest scratches all over the high low and craziest places. You cant see these with the eye. Only with mag. I'm not sure if you can really see them in this pic. But the coin seems very well struck preserved. So why would some one ship such a nice coin with out protecting it. And why the staples. Am I being too detective. Or is this done with the intent to devalue the coin being I got it for spot. Will these light scratches hold the coin back. I cant stop feeling that they had to of felt the coin through the package why wouldnt they just put anything around it.
Let me know what ya think. Please If I'm being to crazy here let me know. I wrote them a letter kinda defensive. But this is Bull Crap.

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 Posted 10/31/2010  05:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's just bullion (UNC ASEs), so I wouldn't worry about it that much. Plus, you got a great deal so I'd just keep it as so. I wouldn't blame the seller in this case, because perhaps he has never sold coins before.
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 Posted 10/31/2010  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add specksynder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was a pretty lousy way to ship the coin... I don't believe the seller was doing it intentionally to devalue the coin because you got a good deal. If the seller was motivated that way, they would have canceled your bid & relisted the item.

Given the way it was shipped, it could have arrived much worse. I think I'd sent the seller a constructive note pointing out the mistake they made and then be done.
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 Posted 10/31/2010  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it's just me, but I think your expectations were too high for a bullion coin. It's not like this was a proof coin, or even an uncirculated version sold by the mint in the special packaging. It's a coin that was minted & sold as bullion that has passed through several hands between the mint & you.

How strong is the magnification of your scope? With enough magnification you can see imperfections on almost any coin.

I agree that the seller could have done a better job of packaging the coin for shipment.
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 Posted 10/31/2010  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Americanamafia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I ship bullion coins in simmilar ways, ie. secure them with staples. Particullary with bullion Kennedy halves. It sounds like you were buying it for the COIN and he was selling it for the SILVER. I just think you are seeing the diffrence between the two ideas about the coin.
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 Posted 10/31/2010  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, they probably didn't look at it as a coin like you do and just thought of it as bullion, which it is. You paid bullion price for the coin and got a bullion piece so really no need to get upset especially since you don't know how it looked before they shipped it. They just probably shipped it the cheapest way they could. I have seen people send bullion in a regular envelope taped to a regular sheet of printer paper. Different people ship coins that they feel aren't worth anything but bullion the cheapest ways possible because no matter what happens it will always be worth the same thing bullion wise.

As far as this being in the grading section, it needs better pictures than what you have provided but chances are there are no modern struck ASE going to grade below MS-65 or 66 unless it has been intentionally defaces or dropped a few times while handling it
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 Posted 10/31/2010  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, anyone who intentionally makes their merchandise worse isn't really a good businessman. I can't see why anyone would do that on purpose. You got it at spot.
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 Posted 10/31/2010  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I asked about the current condition of the coin I was told all the key factors one looks when collecting. I think I fed a little too much into the whole thing now that I've slept on it. If I don't want things like this to happen. I shouldn't buy on E-Bay, I got what I paid for. I thank you for your replies. The frustrating point is the lack of protection. Two pcs of paper vrs the daily goings on of nay shipping company don't seem logical to me. To have such a beautiful coin. Bullion or not. Sliding around with staples makes me cringe. Not the ones around the coin but the ones left in the center of the envelope where the coin can easily and almost certainly find its self under. Momma always said said stupid is as stupid does.
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 Posted 10/31/2010  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadanz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Terrible way to ship the coin... but agree w/ above. It's a bullion issue... don't worry about it too much, just hold onto it for it's silver value.
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 Posted 11/30/2010  04:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scott hill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silver price for a silver piece,nice coin for the money regardless the shipping method!
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 Posted 11/30/2010  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Should have been shipped better but that's ebay, you don't know the knowledge base of who your dealing with.
I've received coins where the envelope was trashed, you could tell it got caught in a machine, and I think
"that was a close one"
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