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Shyster Update #2 - Ebay Finally Acted!

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 Posted 07/15/2010  09:34 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
(Go to my post on the 3rd page to see what this creep is up to now!)

A couple of weeks ago I sold a CLEARLY MARKED AND PROPERLY DESCRIBED restored (chemically altered) 1914-D nickel to a guy for a whopping $9.05. He is now re-auctioning it on ebay and conveniently forgetting to mention that it is NOT an original date. Bidding is up to $29.00 with a little over 3 hours left. What should I do about this? Anything? (Please do NOT tell me to stop selling!) Here is the ebay item number that I sold the coin under: 150462487721 Here is the ebay number for the same coin this guy is re-auctioning: 150465955218

Please also note that he does NOT show the reverse of the nickel which has some obvious problems (see the reverse photo of mine). He has 5 bids so, obviously, there are some totally oblivious buyers out there...

(EDIT by weerdsteev) The creep even stole my obverse photo!)
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07/18/2010 7:33 pm
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 Posted 07/15/2010  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The_Duke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sent him a message asking if it was a restored date, see what/if he gets back to me. There's only 3 hours left. It's ok to resell, but definitely not ok to hind the truth about a coin.

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 Posted 07/15/2010  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep. And by the way, I did report him to ebay. My earlier question about "what should I do" was meant to solicit opinions on whether I should approach my shyster customer or his eventual buyer (if ebay doesn't get it pulled in time).
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 Posted 07/15/2010  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He is ripping people off.
Isn't that the coin collectors credo?
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 Posted 07/15/2010  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Paul: No, I don't think so. I certainly hope not. It is, however, the credo of many ebay sellers....
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07/15/2010 10:06 am
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 Posted 07/15/2010  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's not a lot anyone can do unless the perp has clearly violated the ebay terms of service. I can't view either auction from my work computer, but from your description it doesn't appear that he/she has sufficiently to get it pulled in time.

On the 'Bay it's "buyer beware" at all times on raw items and 99% of the time on slabs with the high incidence of slab counterfeiting. I personally don't bid over melt on a coin there unless I can clearly view both the obverse and reverse of the coin to determine condition.

The buyer always has the option to return (even if it says NO RETURNS) if the item is "Significantly not as described" which it would be on this sale. Raise enough stink and ebay will also refund shipping costs.

One last note ... have you left feedback for your sale? Having a link to that auction on top would fend off many bidders. If you haven't I would encourage you to do so quickly ... "Great Ebayer, thanks for bidding on the restored 14-D"
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 Posted 07/15/2010  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If he does not show a pic of the reverse, people are very trusting that it is a D mint.
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 Posted 07/15/2010  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SeatedNut: I already left feedback for him. I almost always leave it before I even ship the coin.
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 Posted 07/15/2010  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nod: Yeah....you'd think that on a 1914-D THAT would be a prime consideration!
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 Posted 07/15/2010  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The_Duke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
His resposne: "no its not restored, ill send one to your email if youll give it to me"

He was referring to a picture of the reverse.




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 Posted 07/15/2010  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stealing your photo will get their attention at ebay as there is a link for that when you report it.
You need to report it just as you stated above in the 1st post. Make the world a better place.
You could snipe it too and leave him a negative feedback when you win!
Clearly this is deceptive, the guy knows what he is doing.
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 Posted 07/15/2010  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Duke: You should ask for the reverse photo. It would be interesting to know what he sends...if it's blurry...or if he goes and steals my reverse photo.
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 Posted 07/15/2010  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wheezy: Interesting idea, but I'd rather not invest $30.00 (or more) for the "privilege" of leaving a negative feedback.
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 Posted 07/15/2010  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Go to a public computer, register as a new ebay user, bid some ridiculous amount so that you win and then don't pay. I think you could even neg him before you didn't pay.

Two wrongs don't make a right and he still may sell it as a "second chance", but if you want to inflict a little pain...I'd understand!
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 Posted 07/15/2010  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
On the 'Bay it's "buyer beware"

And if you're a seller with integrity, it will irk you to see how people conduct themselves on that site. Of course, it's impossible to control what others do.
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 Posted 07/15/2010  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
KenKat: Good grief, man! We should get together over a few beers and swap devious ideas! You sound like a man after my own deranged-ness! Perhaps you can help me figure a way to keep my neighbor's cats from leaving presents on my outdoor furniture? Seriously though, there's not enough time left for me to implement your plan...and I am at work right now. (Yeah...hard to believe I'm very productive given all the posts I've left this morning!) I do plan on trying to contact the eventual buyer and tell him what he bought. Not easy to do given ebay's policy of hiding the buyer's identity...but I'll find a way...
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