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1902-O Morgan Silver Dollar Supposedly Graded "Gec MS-67"

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 Posted 08/11/2010  4:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mr138 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
If anyone out there can grade this coin and give me an estimate, I'll greatly appreciate it. It is supposedly an "MS67" coin, but then again, no one can trust "GEC"'s coin grading service.

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 Posted 08/11/2010  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one is a lot nicer than MS63. I'd say MS64 with a chance for MS65. LOL at MS67, not a chance!
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 Posted 08/11/2010  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too weak a strike for a 67, that is for sure. You might get a 65 out of it.
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 Posted 08/11/2010  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add big777bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-64 is about right. 65 if you been livin' right.
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 Posted 08/11/2010  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add albumcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say MS64.
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 Posted 08/11/2010  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yea, too much little stuff going on. Pretty clear face and fields, I agree MS64.
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 Posted 08/11/2010  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It might even be as high as an AU58!
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 Posted 08/11/2010  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My first thought was AU-58, since the fields and devices seem to be missing luster in places.
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 Posted 08/11/2010  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiepb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely scratches. Certainly NOT MS-67. It might even be polished / spiffed up - doesn't look fully original to me. I sure hope you didn't pay an MS-67 price for this baby?
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 Posted 08/11/2010  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GEC is a basement slabber which you should never buy, unless the coin is near melt or fair value considering the coin's actual value.

I agree with Johnny, AU-58.
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 Posted 08/11/2010  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like MS-60 for this. The obverse is nice but the reverse breast feathers look almost worn smooth.
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 Posted 08/11/2010  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hmmm... tough one. There aren't many contact marks, but the lack of a great strike will keep the "real" grade down. However, aren't New Orleans Morgans typically more weakly struck? Do PCGS & NGC take this into account when looking at an S mint Morgan with comparable contact marks?

This is where I get lost on grading!
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 Posted 08/12/2010  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I stand by my MS 64-ish grade, I think it's a weak strike on the reverse- very common for NO.
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 Posted 08/12/2010  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU55-58. There are details remaining on the talons, the ear and the hair above the ear which would absolutely not be there were it a typical New Orleans weak strike. You can see the convexity of the hair above the ear in the photo; it would be noticeably flatter with a weak strike. Even weakly-struck Morgans show more detail on the eagle's neck than this one:

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You can get this much apparent "wear" on above the ear and on the eagle's breast of a Morgan in two different ways. This one arrived there through circulation.

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 Posted 08/12/2010  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say AU-58 at best.
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I have been in and out of town for the last week. as I sneak into town but don't have the time to post..It is clear its not MS weak strike,
Mind you it is a weak strike... but a circulated weak strike...from the OBV it shows the general details of a decent strike with the weak ear details..for the REV. the obvious weak chest.. and why the tallon features>> they should/ would be flat I think Echizento and Superdave Have it DEAD ON, you see that's the thing with these garbage grading systems.....MS 67......and you bought it for crap///////not he thousands it could have been......THE OLD saying if its to good to be true IT IS.......I really feel sorry for those who don't have the knowledge.....and over bid(fore under the going rate?) WAKE UP !!
my advise is send your money to me for free!!AT least you know your getting nothing..I have said enough Keep your money.....It was just a point............you can sill send me your cashLOL
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