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I'm a total Newbie to Morgan dollars so cut me some slack if this is dumb. I got a lot of mostly Franklin halves on ebay that included a few Morgans. I decided to look through my CherryPickers Guide just for fun. This one clearly shows what I think is a die clash (line from the back of liberty's hat on the reverse). Is it a clashed die? 1C? What do you think this would grade? The Cherrypicker's guide has values for 1C. If it's something else, what do you think it's worth? Thanks.    |
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes, that is most definitely the result of a clash with the area on the obverse die to which you mention. As for whether it is 1C, I don't know, but more than likely someone may show up who will be able to help you there as well as with grade and value.
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Pillar of the Community
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Well it's not a Vam-1c the 3 / 2 has a wider spred. I think it is a Vam-6a
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Pillar of the Community
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The Clash looks off for the 6a check to see if you have an incused letter (N) that would be on the side of the neck.
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I found this website http://www.vamworld.com/1886-P+VAM-1F I can see two lines coming out of the crook of her neck from the eagles wing. I can't actually see anything from the n though. There is some toning which could help hide it. I can also see a line in her curls from the eagle's other wing pointing to the right side of the first star to the right side of the date. I don't see that mentioned in any of the descriptions. The vertical line on the obverse near the n looks right except mine isn't really visible up next to the n but the position is right. I hope that helps and doesn't make it more confusing. I ordered a tripod for my camera but I think trying to get good pictures of these details is beyond me for now. Thanks. |
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PF, I am not good with this attributing thing, but sometimes I do get lucky, since nobody else seems to be around today, let me take a crack at it. First of all the clash marks that you note under Liberty's jaw and those between the wing and wreath are common areas for clashing, and are generally not mentioned or noted as markers or pick up points, so I think that we struck out there. Maybe we could start with the date positioning, with what seems to me to be 'normal' positioning, which eliminates a few possibilities.
The close up that you posted of the clash between the wing and wreath was quite good, and if you could show a couple more (of that quality) of some other areas on the coin, we just might get it. The biggest problem is that I don't know what close ups to ask for without referring to my past notes, so hang in there while I do that, and hopefully in the meantime, someone who knows more than I do (and that is just about everybody here), might jump in.
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If you could show a closeup of the just the date, I think we will be able to narrow things down considerably.
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United States
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Ok. I think I got a pretty good picture of the date. I thought the lines above the first 8 might be something but now I'm guessing they're just scratches. I hope this helps.  |
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Thanks, I'm looking at it.........
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Keep in mind, the clashes might be indicative; they might not. The currently-available information for whatever VAM this coin is, might not include anything about clashes. |
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Vam-25......please look for some heavy ugly scratching (or polishing) at (in) the bottom of the inner ear.
Edited by zeewool
08/28/2010 8:57 pm
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I don't see any scratches in the ear like this. http://www.vamworld.com/1886-P+VAM-25Thanks for pointing out that that's the ear though. I went to look at this site before you mentioned the ear and I had no idea where on the coin that feature was. |
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If there are no scratches, then I am wrong about the vam-25 thing. Since you have been to that site already, check out vam-3 and vam-6. If neither of these seem to work either, please tell me why. (Some features will need to be there and others won't).
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Now we're getting somewhere. I don't see any doubling so I don't think it's 3. I think it's probably a 6. I don't really have the eye for judging one 1886 from another but I do see the "curious bump" under the A. The site lists two varieties with clashed dies. Based on the lines by in, I don't think it's 6B. It could be 6A but I still don't see any Ns by her neck.
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Sometimes they are hard too see, change the angle and lighting sometimes that helps. The clash looks off for the 6a and if you post just the neck and hair vee (close ups I will look at them. If it is found on your coin it very well could be a different die pairing as the clash line running up into (IN) is in a different spot.
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Here are some new pics. I hope these help. As a point of interest. These pics were shot by my lovely girlfriend with her iPhone 4 through my hastings triplet. I'm amazed at the quality from a cell phone. I wasn't able to get pics this good with my camera. Thanks.   |
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Posted 08/28/2010 12:15 am
