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Help With This Lincoln... Is It Clipped? Or Homemade?

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 Posted 08/31/2010  09:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So a few weeks ago I was searching cents to pass the time and I came across this. Seems like a clip, but I'm no expert on government mistakes! If only somebody could've taped the other piece to the cent the way they try to fix old banknotes.

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I have a higer-res pic but we're only allowed 90Kb at a time. Oh, and those white lines are from my scanner, so disregard those.

The rim is gone from the reverse, and it doesn't really seem pressed, or "smooshed"... The "L" in "LIBERTY" looks like a backwards "J".
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08/31/2010 09:16 am
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 Posted 08/31/2010  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AGCoinHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to have the Blakesley Effect on the rim there. I would say its a clip but I am no expert.
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 Posted 08/31/2010  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks too straight to be a clip. I don't see any weakness in the strike opposite so I would say PMD. I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination but I have several clips and they all have an arc to them, this one doesn't seem to. Can you get a pic of the edge of the clip? That will help in the evaluation.
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 Posted 08/31/2010  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Straight clips can come from blanks that were punched from the edge/end of the strips of metal that they punch out blanks from. It looks right to me. It looks to be a legit mint error.
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 Posted 08/31/2010  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and with the presence of Blakeley's Effect, I would vote legit, too.
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 Posted 08/31/2010  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I too think it's the real thing but when it comes to anything dealing with a Cent, I usually check with https://www.coppercoins.com
Chuck there usually knows everything about thoes coins.
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 Posted 08/31/2010  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DylansDad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I vote legit, due to presence of Blakesley Effect on the obverse under the bust, you can see the rim isn't fully formed there.

Nice one.
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 Posted 08/31/2010  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Blakesely Effect is most obvious on the obverse next to Lincoln's shoulder. In the absense of the effect, a tapering of the rim next to the clip and flow of devices towards the edge are also diagnostics. It is a nice incomplete planchet, they can be tough to find in the wild.


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If only somebody could've taped the other piece to the cent the way they try to fix old banknotes.

There is no other piece because the planchet is never actually clipped, curved examples occur when the punches overlap on the metal stock. A single coin can have multiple clips depending on how much the blank punching alignment was off. Incomplete planchets can also have a straight clip like the posted example. Most straight clips come from the long edge of the metal stock and an incomplete planchet from the end of the metal stock can have what is known as a ragged clip(metal rough and uneven).
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 Posted 08/31/2010  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, the real deal. Nice find.
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 Posted 08/31/2010  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep,on second look I have to agree about the Blakeslee effect. I didn't see it on the reverse but it is obvious on the obverse. Once again,thanks for the education guys.
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 Posted 08/31/2010  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's that higher quality a bit more cropped so that it could fit.

Whenever I look at the rim, the edges have a shine as if it's either close to the core or grinded down?

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If it were graded (I'm not going to) what would the "details" say? What have these sold for in this condition? (It looks Fine to me.)
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 Posted 09/01/2010  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely a straight clip, and a nice one too.
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 Posted 09/01/2010  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice clip
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 Posted 09/02/2010  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CEOcoinshop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, clip. Probably worth a few bucks.
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 Posted 09/03/2010  02:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add m9frank to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have never seen or even considered a planchet punched too near the edge of a sheet. Very nice! Thanks for the photos and all the input from the others. Great post!
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