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1917 Type1 SLQ

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Recent purchase and would like some opinions on the grade. The date seemed a little weak considering the amount of other detail. This series is fairly new to me so fire away. nlp

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 Posted 09/09/2010  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a hard one. Rev looks like a Solid F to me. Given the raised date I guess I would still call the OBV F also.

so net F?
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 Posted 09/09/2010  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unnkown95 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i agree with iamprice it looks like an F
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 Posted 09/09/2010  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to disagree. IMO the toes are not visible, the top of date is warn. Check the gradings in the Red Book. I would say G-VG.
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I would say VG, though the reverse is a little stronger
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 Posted 09/09/2010  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nlp coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try this link from heritage. No toes on VF20.
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ima...nly.php?img=http://images.ha.com/lf%3Fsource=url%5Bfile:images/inetpub/newnames/300/3/0/9/2/3092464.jpg%5D%2Ccontinueonerror%5Btrue%5D&source=url%5Bfile:images/inetpub/webuse/no_image_available.gif%5D%2Cif%5B('global.source.error')%5D&sink=preservemd%5Btrue%5D
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 Posted 09/09/2010  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
F-15. No way it's a G/VG in my opinion.
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This is solid for Fine, probably F-15. I'd want a full date to give it a 20(though the rest of the detail is close), but it's a far cry from G/VG. Looks nice and original.
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I'm with F15 to VF20. Tough to get the full dates on the pre-25's - there is some pretty decent wear on the front so I'm not surprised that the date is partial and toes are worn.

I like the toning/crustiness.
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Thanks for your comments. I guessed fine condition when buying since the morse code(for the lack of not knowing the proper name) was uninterupted, rims were solid and the shield had all the dots. It appears to be in original condition also which is a big plus. nlp
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 Posted 09/10/2010  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add busthalf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The more I compair with the online grading, I'm also going to say F.
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Fine, cleaned
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Prethen, what makes you say cleaned? I am just curious.
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 Posted 09/10/2010  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin only shows dirt in the protected areas and the toning for me is major red flag. Coins with luster will tone like that. Also, coins that have been stripped (i.e. cleaned like this one) will also tone like that. Of course, I can be wrong and perhaps this coin was stored in such a way to make it look as such, however, I wouldn't want to own that coin.
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Good point Prethen. When I first saw it I thought the toning was secondary but I decided it was either the lighting or how it was stored, Difficult to say but I agree that there's a chance it's been dipped.
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 Posted 09/13/2010  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcreek1968 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Solid F-12. Too me, that coin looks like it may have been laying around in a canvas bag or elsewhere with other coins laying on top of it to cause it to tone as it has. I don't really see anything that suggests it has been cleaned or artificially toned. IMO
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