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 Posted 10/01/2010  7:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mightymatt490 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,

I recently just got into coin collecting, partially to hedge and partially because I've always been into coins. I bought a gold american eagle and a few silver american eagle coins from APMEX.

Looking at their coin supplies http://www.apmex.com/Category/509/C...upplies.aspx I'm a bit overwhelmed on storage options. It seems the "flips" would be good for the silver american eagles, but what should I do with my gold american eagle? If I'm only planning on having a few of those per year (I will probably buy one per quarter), would it be better to store them in individual mint cases? What about the air tight containers? Some research I've read shows that the non-plastic flips are the best for long term storage, but then they say they don't recommend them for proof coins...

Also, what's a good scale and good magnifying glass to get?

Thanks,

Matt
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 Posted 10/02/2010  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. A scale that will weigh in tenths (grams),a calibration tool for measuring your coins, As far as storing, I keep my ASE's in air tights, my gold coins go into slabs
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 Posted 10/02/2010  12:11 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Matt,
The non-plasticized 2x2 flips are sufficient for most coins. For your more cherished and/or valuable coins, I do like the airtites. They are a great long term storage vehicle. Just remember not to sneeze or breathe on your coins prior to their "encapsulation". Your basic 10x loupe should be sufficient for most coins. Variety searching, you may want to go higher. I have a good scale but it slips the mind at the moment. Ill post the name here :-)
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Matt,
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 Posted 10/02/2010  04:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rastatodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I own a far amount if silver ASE. They get stored in Airtites. Than for extra safety go into Rubbermaid containers with desiccant packets to help keep the moisture out.
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 Posted 10/02/2010  05:42 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have heard Rubbermaid by someone else with these Desiccant packs. Are Rubbermaid containers non-plasticized?
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 Posted 10/02/2010  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rastatodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good question. I don't have that answer. How would one find out? Non-Plasticized?
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 Posted 10/02/2010  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mightymatt490 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks so much for everyone's help!
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 Posted 10/02/2010  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How to Test for PVC

I found this information pretty use full.
http://www.canadian-numismatic.org/ <------ Have to give credit to canadian mumismatic
Just make sure the plastic contains no PVC or polyvinylidene chloride, Cause it will leave a film over the coins thats tough to get off. I made the mistake of storing all my pocket change in metal coffee cans. I thought I was sure to find some nice coins after a couple of months but when I went back to look for High Grades and Errors the coins were being eaten alive by the coffee cans. AAAHHHHh what a lesson that was. SO hope the below helps you anyone else the pain that PVC causes.



Beilstein Test
The Beilstein test is a simple chemical test which is used to determine whether a plastic contains PVC or polyvinylidene chloride. To carry out the test you will need a small propane torch and a copper wire (a penny could also be used). Copper by itself burns cleanly but produces a green flame (copper chloride) when combined with a compound containing chlorine ( e.g., PVC)

Steps:
Heat the copper wire in the flame of the torch until it burns cleanly. This serves to burn off any unwanted residues that might be on the wire. Make sure that you hold the wire with pliers or an insulator to avoid injury. Touch the hot wire to the holder. Some of the holder will melt and be stuck to the wire. Be sure to hold the holder close to the air intake of the torch in order to draw away the fumes from the burning plastic. Put the wire back into the flame. If the flame bums yellow or clear, no PVC present. If the flame burns bright green, then some PVC is present.



Stretch Test
For the stretch test, pull on the plastic and determine how easy it is to stretch it. The tear test is similar. Try to tear the plastic film as you would a piece of paper.

Steps:
Polyester (MylarTM) hard to stretch hard to initiate a tear; once tear begins material tears easily; tear has a rough edge

Polypropylene easier to stretch than polyester hard to initiate a tear; once tear begins material tears easily; tear has a clean edge similar to cellophane

Polyethylene easier to stretch than polyester hard to tear tends to tear in directions

Polyvinylchloride easier to stretch than polyester moderately easy to initiate a tear ragged tear edge

Polystyrene hard to stretch easy to initiate a tear; clean tear, but not straight

Cellophane hard to stretch easy to tear

Cellulose Triacetate easier to stretch than polyester fairly easy to tear; tear has "smokey" edge



Burn Tests
Take a small sample of plastic and place it in a pair of tongs or tweezers. Ignite the sample and observe the resulting odor and rate of burn. Please be sure to carry out these tests in a
well ventilated area while burning the plastic film over an ashtray. Avoid inhaling the fumes as they may be toxic.

Polyester (MylarTM) faintly sweet melts, burns slowly, beading back without dripping; leaves an ash residue.

Polypropylene burns slowly, beading back without dripping.

Polyethylene + odor like burning candle wax fairly rapid; melts and drips like wax

Polystyrene odor like marigolds melts into a clear liquid

Polyvinlidene Chloride pungent extinguishes itself when removed from the flame

Cellophane burned newspaper does not melt, drip or form beads; burns the same as paper; continues to burn when removed from flame

Cellulose Acetate mixture of burning paper and acetic acid burns slowly when removed from flame.
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10/02/2010 11:25 pm
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 Posted 10/02/2010  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is some more how to's all of the bellow How TO's can be found at
http://www.brent-krueger.com/howto.html

I love when company's post such great information for anyone to check out.
Usually says something about their shop. I haven't had the chance to get over to Brent Krueger actual store nor ordered anything yet but like what I see so far.

Brent-Krueger "How To" Clinics

How to Use Silica Gel to Restore a Wet Cell Phone or Other Small Electronic Device

How to Test for PVC in Coin Storage Products

How to mount coins in bookshelf albums that use slides

How to mount your coins in Airtite holders and display cards

How to size display cards for Airtite paper boxes

How to size display cards for Airtite velvet steel boxes

How to size display cards for Airtite cherry presentation cases

How to size display cards for Airtite oak wall frames

How to use Dellar's Darkener

How to use MS70 Industrial Strength Coin Cleaner

How to Use and Assemble Capital Plastics Acrylic Centered Holders

How to Select, Use and Care for Headband Magnifiers
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 Posted 10/03/2010  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waredu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've heard that Rubbermaid is made of LDPE. Recycle symbol #4. What you really want to stay away from is recycle symbol #3, which means it has PVC in it.
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 Posted 10/03/2010  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rastatodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Checked into the recycling symbol on the Rubbermaid containers and has a number 5, meaning (polypropylene). All is good with the containers. Now I have a piece of mind.
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 Posted 10/03/2010  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been putting coins in those cardboard type flips for as long as they have existed. I've been collecting coins for well over 60 years now and so far no problems doing that at all. I keep all of them in those Whitman Red two roll cardboard boxes and again, no problem.
I seldom use staples on them. I usually just place a piece of clear tape on the edges. I don't like the plstic flips since you have to slide the coins in and out whereas with the cardboard ones they just open. I have many proofs in those and some for many, many years and nothing happened to any of them. EVER.
I don't worry about PVC since that is sort of an over kill by people lately. I don't think anything usable for coins is made with PVC anyway. I never use Silica gel packs either. I keep most of my valuble coins in safe deposit boxes in banks. Any coins in my house are in the basement and I have a dehumidifyer on all year long. Does a lot more than possibly hundreds of gel packs.
Many of my coins are in Albums and each Album is in a Zip Lock plastic bag. A few are in double ones since those are the ones I like the most.
I still have my first coins from when I was a kid and they still look like they did then.
If you want to get carried away with preservationing, you may well in up with ulcers.
It's a hobby, have fun.
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But I think most of us just don't want to accidentally do something that will harm the coins.
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 Posted 10/03/2010  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chef to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What about Kointains? How are they for storing coins?
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 Posted 10/04/2010  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add palaniappan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just use coin holders made of good material. Every few years you have to change the holders.

warm wishes.
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