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 Posted 08/24/2006  8:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TLS5933 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What choo think.


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 Posted 08/24/2006  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I blew the pics up a bit. It looks like a strong MS65 to me. A little too much chatter in the obverse field for higher, but the cheek looks great!

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 Posted 08/24/2006  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add B12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd have to say 64 because there's too much of deeb hit's and scratches to go higher especially that one in front of the nose.
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 Posted 08/25/2006  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yowser. Based on the available evidence, I could see that coin in an MS65 slab.
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B12, I looked at that area closer and I think you may be right at 64.
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 Posted 08/25/2006  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrk4lvg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man, I sure wish my morgans looked remotely close to these you all have been posting....

I mean, how the heck did the people of the 1800s know to keep these coins UNC?
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quote:
Originally posted by wrk4lvg

Man, I sure wish my morgans looked remotely close to these you all have been posting....

I mean, how the heck did the people of the 1800s know to keep these coins UNC?



A significant portion never came close to circulation, they just sat all bagged up in Treasury vaults until being sold off in the 1950s and 60s. That is also why you see so many Morgans with fantastic natural rainbow toning- it was caused by the coins pressing up against the canvas mint bags for so many years.
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Bio's right,
Most of the MS++ Morgans never saw daylight and or was released much later that there mint year.
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I would be gutsy and say an MS65...chatter or not. However, I know that it's a 64 because well...that's my little secret. Let's just say...you have a 64 habit!
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quote:
Originally posted by dsking

I would be gutsy and say an MS65...chatter or not. However, I know that it's a 64 because well...that's my little secret. Let's just say...you have a 64 habit!



Always the investigator huh... Yes but it might upgrade to 65.
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Back at ya!
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Not at all sure how I missed this Morgan. I cheated a little and snuck a peek at Susan's blown up images. Based on them, I'd go with MS-63 or -64 (I prefer the latter). Just a little too much noise on Liberty's forehead, neck, nose, chin, and the obverse field to get up to MS-65 in my opinion. It has gorgeous luster! I could be wrong and am often am, so it might go higher; I would be disappointed if it went lower. Also, there is no reason why PCGS would need to use this Morgan to lower the Bell Curve on this date in its Population Report. Regardless, it's a beautiful coin!

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 Posted 08/29/2006  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whacha gonna do with it, Terry?

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quote:
Originally posted by Morgan Fred

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whacha gonna do with it, Terry?

Fred




Fred, I bought this one for my PCGS Morgan Date set.There all MS64 except the 1891,92 are MS63 and the 1895 is XF45 of course. All I need to finish the set is 1893,1894. Heres a pic of the 1897, is not a mark on the cheek,very happy with this one.


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In your original post, you did a little image manipulation to black out the PCGS slab outline? Some of those marks could have been on the plastic.

With my Carson City Morgan series, my target is also at least MS-64 for all of them, but have one or two MS-63s (financially feasible to upgrade) except the 79-CC, 89-CC, and 93-CC for which I will have to settle for less (NOT financially feasible ).

Getting a complete Morgan date series is a lofty goal, especially in Mint State condition. I thought about it, but decided I wanted to expand my horizons outside Morgans and am now planning a type set for cents, nickels, dimes (or dismes), and maybe quarters, looking at 19th century only (maybe). I think I also mentioned I want to make a complete reference set of all possible grades (coin immaterial, but dollars preferred) from P-01 to MS-70... all in reasonably affordable dates.

Actually, my REAL goal is a complete type set for all US coins. That would put me up there with Eliasberg.
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Fred, the original pictures were the sellers pics.So,not sure what he did when he took them.I wish I could take a picture that good. Yep,a MS Morgan date set is a goal I cannot reach with the 1894,95 being in the thousands of dollars,so a couple will have to be in the XF-AU range. Still a good set thou.

WOW,CC's being even harded & more expensive to collect.I wish I had more of them.Maybe my next project. Of course SuperDave and Bryan almost have me convinced to go after 1878 and 1921 Morgan VAM's.
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