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Found this last night. Any ideas?

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 Posted 12/04/2010  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If there were a part of the date, where are the other digits? The full obverse on the Philly coins are done at one time on the 20th. century coins. On the 19th century coins the digits were added individually or in a gang punch. Not possible to be a separate digit on this year.
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 Posted 12/04/2010  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The part where your arrow is pointing looks like it could be an extension of what ever happened to the 6.
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It really looks like a ghost 9 but I can not explain how it got there. There are anomalies inside the 8 and the proper 9. I am not sure that line on the 6 is related to the artifact in question. Is it raised or incuse?
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The line in question is parallel to the rim. If incuse it might be a coin wrapper damaged coin?

If it were a doubled die, then the digits would all be doubled such as on the classic 1955 DDO:
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So does anyone think it is worth holding onto, or should I chuck it back in the roll?
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I would keep it as an oddity. It will only cost you 1 cent to keep it.
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Lol, true. I'ma do some more research on it just cause I'm curious. Thanks alot for all the help everyone.
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Great conversation piece.
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I would say it's a "Dropped Letter/Digit".

Where the 9 got filled with grease/debris and fell out and was struck into the next planchet causing an imprint of that digit onto the next coin. Similar to any other struck through error, except the debris had the shape of the digit.
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Coop - your image is nice, but it is incorrect.
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Coop- your image is nice, but it is incorrect


Could you explain please, so we all can learn.
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Sure.

First, there is no such thing as ELDS. The die states are as follows (by the inventor of the term, Delma K. Romines):

1. VEDS - Very Early Die State
2. EDS - Early Die State
3. EMDS - Early Mid-die State
4. MDS - Mid-die State
5. LMDS - Late Mid-die State
6. LDS - Late Die State
7. VLDS - Very Late Die State

Second, the bottom image is of an earlier die state than the two images above it. The best bet is to show images of a die that actually made it to late die state. There are no known examples of this die in classic late die state.

I will post an educational thread on die state so long as the moderators promise to make it a sticky. I don't want to waste the time to see it shove off the end of the page like some of the other necessary educational posts I have made here before.
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I pulled the image. Sorry guys.
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