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How To Tell Struck On Bronze?

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 Posted 01/24/2011  02:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi. I'm wondering how you can tell if a cent has been struck on bronze (say a 1989 D) Thanks :)
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 Posted 01/24/2011  06:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think by weighing it. A bronze is 3.1g & zinc is 2.5g.
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 Posted 01/24/2011  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would also make a different sound if dropped on a table. Bronze makes a high pitched ring and zinc is a dead thud.

You very likely do not have a bronze 1989 cent because the bronze planchets were outdated in 1962 in favor of brass. They stopped using brass in 1982 in favor of the zinc. Zinc had been in production for six full years before the first 1989 cent was struck. VERY VERY highly unlikely a brass planchet was used to make any 1989 cents.

What you 'could' be talking about is the 'brass plated' cents where some zinc planchets fell into the pure copper bath for plating unstruck cent planchets. The mixture turns to a yellowish brass-like metal and subsequent coins turn out yellowish in color. You cannot "tell" if you have one of these in any scientific way. If they are yellowish in color it is assumed that's what they are. As for me, I cannot tell the difference because I am color blind, so I have never had any interest in them at all.
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 Posted 01/24/2011  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot Coppercoins, that's all really helpful info

I posted because I was browsing some error coins sites and they had a couple of 1989 D's bronze errors. I forget the name of the site but it's jam packed with newsletters/magazines? about error coins, and the 89's shown had been authenticated and graded.

It made me wonder if I should be paying attention and watching out for bronze. Like what are the odds of a batch of bronze planchets getting in that mint run, instead of saying just one or two somehow got into the run? If they've authenticated two, what are the odds there are more ... I wonder?

Note to self: read up on the minting process/steps to learn where and how errors like this can happen. Hmmmmmmm ... are there any videos online showing the minting process? That would be helpful.
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 Posted 01/24/2011  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This error occurs during the planchet plating process. As you may or may not know, US cent planchets are supplied by an outside vendor, Jarden Zinc. Jarden also supplied the plated zinc blanks to the RCM. Zinc blanks are copper plated with an electrochemical bath. If some zinc blanks are left in the copper solution, they slowly dissolve and create a brass solution. New zinc blanks added to this solution are then plated with brass and not copper. The brass plating gives the coins a very yellow color when compared the copper plating.
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 Posted 01/24/2011  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for explaining Biokemist6 :)

I also just found that site listing the bronze 1989 D's as well as a 1990 D bronze. The blurbs mention three known bronzes ... they're on pages 18, 19, and 20:

http://minterrornews.com/issue12.pdf
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 Posted 01/24/2011  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But, are they worth collecting? Is this considered a planchet error?

I don't usually pay attention to them when roll searching. Should I?
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They are not hard to miss. If they don't jump right out at you, then they are not the brass plated ones. If they are stained/damaged I toss them back. Save the best, toss the rest!
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