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Nope nlp.... that is not vam-8.... the crack is not the same. It is definitely not V-8, or any of the other varieties V-1 through V-10..... New for sure.  Edited by zeewool
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You are logged on as nlp coins My CCF Home Auctions Active Unanswered Last 100 Active Last 100 New Search FAQ Rules All Forums US coins and Currency Discussion Forums Peace and Morgan dollar VAM1897-O Vam-8 New Topic New Poll Reply to Topic Topic Subscription Send Topic to a Friend Printer Friendly Author Topic nlp coins Pillar Of The Community Supporter! USA 1448 Posts Posted Today 2 Hrs 28 Min ago -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take a look and opinions welcomed. I found this today in an old roll and thought I found a new one until I got to Vam-8 on the list. The Heritage shot on VW looks to be the same reverse die crack at the A-M and wingtip but in the earliest state. Is this in fact a Vam-8 and what die state would you think it may be in considering the state of the discovery coin where no mention of this is made. TIA nlp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Save the best, sell the rest http://nlpcoins.ecrater.com/ Send note to staff How can I help support Coin Community? zeewool, I just studied it some more and you may be right. I believe my mint mark is also tilted right more than the Vam-8. nlp
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Oh I am very certain of it nlp.... no doubt whatsoever about it..... V-8 has a crack in a 'similar' location, as well as other locations..... your coin does not have those other cracks..... your coin has a break (not a crack), and it is listable as such.... the only other thing that comes close is V-9, but that can be ruled out as it has cracks on both obverse and reverse in LDS, but no breaks..... Yours is new, definitely, normal date, mm set high, tilted right, and so far unlisted.
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I have to agree with Zee the break is not right. between the A and M the raise is much closer to the A then the M on the LDS Vam-8a
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Too bad I found it today Russ. I already mailed a package to you yesterday. When is the next shipment to LVA? nlp
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Hey Russ, where have you been buddy? I have been asking about you, and someone told me that you died.  |
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Its not VAM 8 as stated above, but rather VAM 2 LDS due to the cracks , and it may get a revision as it appears to HAVE "die brake's" rather than a die crack... Good eye Noel......Gene |
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Sorry Gene, it is not V-2..... the mm is way too high to be v-2.... this is something new.
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yes I agree Zee. I expanded the photo, the O is slightly higher..and VAM 9 has no photo's. but also does not mention and die breaks. I think its a winner.. |
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Zee, I have been building furniture for a buddy of mine for the last 2 plus weeks... At times I had wished to die as he had a time frame that required 14 and 16 hour days. Add in the fact that he had done some base framing that was not plumb or square or level...almost half the time was spent fixing not building.
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A fearless mechanic, a skilled craftsman, (you have to know how to build before you can fix... so I've been told), and a collector of the most interesting coins I've seen... You are a man for all seasons Russ.... I was only joking about the dead thing.....
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I got the coin back from LVA and his ruling is VAM-9 with the c3e reverse. "Die chips are too small to be readily seen with naked eye and list." It was worth a shot. nlp
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Two short diagonal die scratches between the base of the 4th and 5th outer feathers, four short diagonal die scratches between the base of the 6th and 7th outer feathers, and two short diagonal die scratches between the base of the 8th and 9th outer feathers of the eagle's left wing. Do you see all of those scratches on your coin nlp? Quote:
LDS specimens will show extensive die cracks on left portion of obverse and reverse lettering. Do you see any of those cracks on the left portion of the obverse or reverse lettering? All of those little scratches and left portion cracks can be seen with the naked eye, but the break on the right portion of the reverse can't be?  If multiple dies are used here (for classification), why are trivialities like cracks and short little scratches mentioned? Sounds more die is the die related than similarity classified to me. This whole submission game appears to be much like pulling the handle of a slot machine. |
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Zee, I only can see a very light die crack through the top of N-I-T-E and it is ever so light. The obv looks crack free. There may be too much wear for the scratches in the wing. I'll hook up the scope later and see if there is anything there other than circulation marks. Funny thing about it is the fact that I picked this out of a roll of my own morgans while culling through them with the naked eye. hmmmm   |
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