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Which was the first 1-cent coin to achieve legal tender status and for how much in legal tender?
What year?
What composition?
Why?
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Flowing hair cent. 1793. Copper. ?
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Why...all total guess. Constitution ratified? Straining my brain here...lol
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1865 Indian Head cent. Part of the 1865 revamp of the coinage laws which gave the bronze (95% copper, 5% tin and zinc) cent full legal tender status. The cent had been granted "limited legal status in 1864 when it converted from copper nickle to bronze. One reason why was it was the coin most people were familiar with (the civil war had driven all gold and silver out of circulation). Another reason was to drive out of circulation the millions of civil war tokens that were circulating at the time.
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Ok...sombody knows how to use the internet. JK.
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jfransch...1865 is incorrect (I'd practically give away the answer if I said more than that).

You were hitting close but not quite on target as to the reason for legal tender.
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Pretty amazing it was so late. I read somewhere that before this law, banks would routinely limit the amount of cents that could be redeemed for silver coin.
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I had no idea that "legal tender" was such a precarious term. And that initially it was not always accepted fot "all debts public and private". Thanks Prethen..made me learn something!
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I tried, I guess the memory starts to go as you get older.
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and for how much in legal tender?

What does this mean? I would think it was worth 1ΒΆ if that is what you are asking but I am not sure thats what you are asking here in the second part of the question

Edit: I see your response in the other thread now. I guess for me to understand what you meant it would have to be worded "and how many was a merchant required to take for a dept before they could refuse them"
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Can I change my date to 1864 when it was given limited legal status?
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What does this mean? I would think it was worth 1ΒΆ if that is what you are asking but I am not sure thats what you are asking here in the second part of the question

I believe he means what was the maximum face value of 1 cent coins you could pay all at once and still have it considered "legal tender". Most countries set upper limits for legal tender for their low-denomination coins, mainly to block the "pay your fine in pennies" idiots. For example, here in Australia, Australian coins in the 5ΒΆ to 50ΒΆ range are only legal tender for up to $5 face value.
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Can I change my date to 1864 when it was given limited legal status?

Correct! The composition was also known as French Bronze. The new coin "style" basically mimicked the "copperheads"/merchant tokens that were becoming so popular.
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Still missing: Why did the composition change?
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