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Re: If A Coin Needed Cleaning/Polishing, Photo Posted

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Before I leave this forum tonight, oooops, make that this morning, I would like to ask the members here that if they came across a old Lincoln Cent with ZERO EYE APPEAL, it's like the most ugly black coin you would ever see (let alone bending over to pick it up off the ground)... Let's say you have some problems viewing this coin with a 10x triplet Lupe and see what looks like a 1960-D Large over Small Date, but your still unsure as this is the ugliest piece of junk your holding and the more you look at it , the more your eyes ache...
Would you clean/polish this coin and give it some life back <or> leave the coin alone because everybody knows that a cleaned coin is a Big NO-NO in this hobby...
I'll come back later in the day and see if any of you want to view the photo, if so, if will be in a reply..
P/S - (last year I emailed some photos of this coin to John Wexler)

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I think it may have been John Wexlex... * darn typos*
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Sounds like the coin wouldn't be in good enough shape to be worth anything even after it was cleaned, so you could look at it two ways; why bother or curiosity killed the cat.
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it's like the most ugly black coin you would ever see (let alone bending over to pick it up off the ground).


I would throw it in my cent jar, later roll it and turn it in. Really would not matter if you polished this one to death or not would it?

Plus, what is the "black stuff"? Corrosion? If it is very advanced corrosion, and the most ugly Lincoln Cent there is, it better be extremely rare and extremely sought after and valuable to even be considered worthwhile. Since I am not sure what it is under all this with a 10X Loupe, it would not matter.
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 Posted 04/02/2011  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you can't figure it out with a good 10x, you might as well re-engrave it to whatever you want, because it's already worthless.
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 Posted 04/02/2011  03:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add liveandievarieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "textbook answer"? Never clean a coin. Everyone will tell you that.

And now everyone will cry out at my own stance:

What a dealer won't tell you is that it's not only accepted, but routine practice for most dealers to use acetone on copper coins, and lightly dip nickel and silver in a light cleaning solution. This has no bearing on whether they're certifiable by a TPG, the coin is not cleaned in their eyes. Period.

I'm not going to take a stance on the subject, other than to say that there's a tremendous difference between a coin that's had "gunk" removed from it's surface- I'm referring to oils and dirt- natural organic deposits which don't interfere with the surface of the coin. This can be referred to restoring a coin- but this is not cleaning. When organic build up is professionally removed, what you have left is the attractive, original coin which had been hidden by a cloud of ugliness.

A coin that's cleaned is damaged, and will always be damaged. If a coin is corroded and at the point of being nearly worthless, I think pondering it's cleaning is completely arbitrary. If it's damaged and of nearly no value, Who Cares?
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First I would try a soak in Verdi-Care
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Keep in mind that this was a throw away coin prior to some serious cleaning, you can still see some type of corrosion on the date...
Now this is a space filler for the 1960-D D/D Large over Small Date... Whenever I get enough posts to auction here, I'll start the bid at $1.00 (has to be worth a buck)...
I should also add that prior to cleaning, there was no sign of a repunched mint mark...


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and after the cleaning its still not worth anything in my opinion so not sure what the point is for showing a scrubbed coin. Are you saying now its worth more or something?
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I wouldn't buy it. It's cleaned.
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When you put it up, I'll be watching...I'm not afraid of cleaned coins depending on price,after all it is still a real coin.
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Allot of collectors will not mess with problem coins especially ones that are scrubbed like this one because you can never find a buyer if you ever decide to sell
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Allot of collectors will not mess with problem coins especially ones that are scrubbed like this one because you can never find a buyer if you ever decide to sell
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In the OP's defense, it is a cool find. Just too bad what it is now.
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The price was right (circulation find) and considering it almost ended up in the trash (like many post '82 corroded coins I receive in change), I'm not complaining at all on this find...
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First of all... Nice find, too bad after the fact of cleaning. I would buy it for a dollar for curiosity's sake. And secondly, for your original question... I think it compares to an old saying: "If a tree falls in the woods, and no one is around to hear it... Did it really fall?" I see this thread has some interesting responses...
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