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Spotting On Zincoln's

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In the course of cent roll searching I'm often finding spotting on circulated Lincolns 2008 and older. The spotting is starting to get more common on the 2009's and an occasional 2010 as well. Even when I find what at first appears to be a gem quality coin I quickly notice a few spots on the obverse and a little less on the obverse. It's quite rare to find a visually appealing almost perfect Lincoln. I do seem have better luck in the 94-97 range. It's a shame to see some of these newer ones getting messed up so quickly.

The spotting looks like little circular spots where tiny drops of muddy water dried, but they don't rub off. That's the best why I can describe them without a pic. I'm sure you've all seen them. I'm guessing that it's the very initial stage of corrosion starting on the coin.

-I know cleaning is bad, but in these scenario would acetone or verdigone or something remove these spots and then allow the coin to be properly preserved? I'm not positive it's verdigris though, it's not green.

-If I do have gem quality 2009 and 2010's in rolls and tubes in a dry environment will they eventually naturally start spotting like the other zinc's or is the spotting more caused from being circulated? I wasn't sure if this spotting is an due to environmental or a person person [or both].

...meanwhile I can pick out some 1960's cents in better condition than the 2008's. Gotta love zincolns.
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This is generally the fault of the planchet wash used on the planchets even before they were struck. It does not come off (safely) and pretty much anything you would do to remove it would ruin the coin.

I go through 10-20 rolls of modern Lincolns to find a dozen decent examples of the date and mint that do not have the spotting. They are out there, you just have to be prepared to exhaust a dozen rolls to find a couple of coins.
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Yes, they are out there. I'm through about 6 boxes now. I guess it's just flustering when there could be a whole bunch more out there but are already turning zombified.
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They aren't "turning" - they came out of the mint that way.

Remember, the mint's goal is NOT to make perfect coins for you to collect. Their goal is to turn out enough coins to meet the demand of commerce. While quality is their goal, perfection isn't. The wash does not affect the coin's life span so they literally don't care.

If you want 'perfect' coins, buy mint sets.
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Welcome to the world of Zincolns. They are plagued by spotting, hits and late/worn die states. The most ignored series in the world by collectors and dealers a like because "there's billions". The problem is 99% of those billions have issues. Sure, you can buy a complete 1959-up BU set for $30, but you get what you pay for. And if you think you can buy high grade slabbed coins that are "perfect", think again, the TPG's usually get the grade wrong and they don't care about the finer details like die state.

I'll say it for the billionth time....putting together a high-quality, BU Memorial set is extremely challenging. I have 100x the amount of time in my memorial set compared to my wheat set....and I'm far from "done". It's very frustrating!
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