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Question About Peace Dollars Ending After 1934

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I was wondering why the US stopped making silver dollars in 1934. All the years from 1934 to 1964 we had silver dimes, quarters, and half dollars.

The wikipedia article says they were just not very popular. Is this true? Was it because silver certificates were backed in silver so people felt the coins didn't serve a purpose?
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 Posted 05/07/2011  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Americanamafia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For the same reason why Ike dollars failed, they are too big to carry arround in mass quantaties.
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get rid of paper dollar and dollar coins will work-- works in Canada
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 Posted 05/07/2011  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StormStrikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wish they would get rid of the dollar bills. Unlike dollar bills, dollar coins we don't owe interest on.
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Personally I am glad the US does not accept the dollar coins overall. The reason being that when a US dollar becomes psychologically perceived as mere pocket change, a rise in price on everything will most likely be the result.

I remember talking with a Canadian banker when the first (later to become) Sacajewea was being debated in the States. The banker told me that the US would be asking for trouble if they did go to the one dollar coins b/c it is hard to get rid of them when you have a lot of them. He said the banks do not like to cash in large amounts b/c when they try to exchange them for higher bill denominations, the shipping is a lot more expensive than shipping many, may more paper $1.00 bills.

This was also the pre-toonie days. Was the toonie in response to rising costs in Canada? I do not know. But I can easily see this scenario happening in the US. Although I am a proud citizen of the US, I am familiar enough with Canada that I can also feel at home there.

I can, unfortunately, and matter-of-fact say that what I like more about Canada is that the mindset in Canadians is to generally want to do quality work and give you a good value in what you pay them for. In other words, I find that greed is a little less prominent north of the border.

Whatever works out great for Canada will not, necessarily, work out great in the US. There are some large cultural differences that are not perceived until one spends a good deal of time with friends and family in both countries.

Also remember, for whatever reason, the Canadians gladly used $2 bills years ago, The US people, for whatever reason, never wanted them. I think whatever drives that non-acceptance has also kept the $1 coins from being popular. And I personally hope it never does take off here for the above reason. As we hicks used to say, "if it ain't broken - don't fix it!"

I also admit I love that Canadian sense of humor naming their coins loonies and toonies. I also love the name of that chain of Canadian dollar stores - "The Loonie Bin!"


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Actually they stopped making them in 1935.

The Peace dollars were never actually intended to be a circulating coin. (Well the idea behind them originally was to make a circulating coin to mark the return of peace after the end of the "War to end all wars" but it didn't work out that way.) The Peace dollars were struck to replace all the silver dollars melted down by the Pitman Act of 1918. Since the dollars melted under that act were used to back some 250 million dollars in silver certificates, those notes had to be withdrawn when the coins were melted and the metal sold to England. The Act called for the replacement of those coins and once they had struck enough Peace dollars to match what was melted the coining stopped. That was in 1928. In 1934 the government did another silver interest bail out purchasing silver to try and support the price(Thomas Amendment to the Agricultural Adjustment Act of May 12, 1933. For a year the government would buy ALL the domestically mined silver for 64.65 cents an oz. The current market price was 41 cents an oz.). Half of that silver was earmarked for being made into silver dollars . Once again to back silver certificates. The silver purchased under that act created the 1934 and most of the 1935 Peace dollars. A further 52,029 1935 silver dollars would be made from silver purchased under the Silver Purchase Act of June 19, 1934. (This act would eventually lead to the Treasury acquiring over two billion oz of silver.) Once the dollars earmarked under those act of 1933 and 1934 were struck no more were made because the silver certificates could be backed just as well by the silver bullion as they could by coins. (Even though the government was paying over the market price for the silver they was striking the coins and backing the certificates at $1.2929 per oz, so for every dollar they spent on metal they could issue TWO dollars in paper.) And of course the public would rather carry the paper dollars than the heavy clunky silver dollars. And as long as they were exchangeable at par on demand why not carry the paper.
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get rid of paper dollar and dollar coins will work-- works in Canada
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Personally I am glad the US does not accept the dollar coins overall. The reason being that when a US dollar becomes psychologically perceived as mere pocket change, a rise in price on everything will most likely be the result.
Prices have already risen to the point where a dollar is mere pocket change. A dollar when a lot further when I was a kid.
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I thought the last effort to create the dollar coin, the golden dollar ad they seemed to spend a lot of $$ on, would work; I would have used them if they had worked in our parking meters, pretty much the only chnage I use these days.
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They work fairly well in machines that are designed to take them. In Philadelphia, I would use SBA dollars to buy my ticket accross the riveer.
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Don't we have this debate about whether or not we should get rid of the dollar bill and go to dollar coins in another thread?
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In several other threads. And it pops up again in a new thread probably at least once a month. But I do have faith that eventually the government will realize what the collecting community has known about and stated since 1979, that in order for the coin to succeed the note has to be discontinued. After all they do learn. It only took them twenty years to realize that it had to be a different color. I figure maybe another twenty years to understand that the note needs to go. So we might see a successful small size dollar coin as early as 2020 or so. At which point it will have little or no purchasing power.
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Personally I hate the small dollars. I am collecting them only because they are being made, and some others do like them. I wish they would go back to the old dollars. Them being big is a good thing IMO. Obviously I am in the minority, but so be it.
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I could be wrong, but didn't they try to bring back Peace dollars in the 60's only to melt them down before releasing them?
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Yes there is one year where they made actual Peace dollars in (i believe) 1964.

"None has turned up for 33 years and none may turn up for 33 years more," Forman said. "If one of these coins ever did turn up, I think it would be seized and in all probability placed in the Smithsonian. That's my guess."
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Well I for one thing it is a waste of our money to have a $1 bill AND a coin. Coins are cheaper and people would get used to using them just like we got used to NOT having $.50 in general circulation, or should I say being used in general circulation. The BEP COULD make money each year with a different commemorative dollar if they phased out general circulation paper dollars.
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Personally I like the new prez dollars. They're not very attractive, but they are relatively light to carry, and I've no problem with using them. As for being a waste of money ... what have we done as coin experts to persuade our congressmen to change the pertinent laws? Complaining here is pretty much useless, IMHO.
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