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This one is 218 years old. Any opinions on the grade?   Edited by BrickellCat
05/31/2011 06:36 am
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Hmmm...
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I will say this: The Red Book has the Flowing hair being minted in 1794.  I guess I'll wait for the experts. |
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There is a real 1793 flowing hair chain reverse design, it just needs to be verified for authenticity. Where did you get it?
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That is a tough one. Needs to be graded by TPG. If real my guess is G4. |
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I don't know if it is real or not. But it is no better than AG3 and probably FR-2, since the mottos are difficult to read on the reverse, plus the porosity issues on both sides.
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I don't know about the authenticity of it, but the coin looks to have AG3 details. The obverse is much stronger than the reverse. If it is real, it will be worth a lot.
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It's unusual to have such a strong obverse on a chain cent with this much wear. Usually it's the reverse that retains a clear chain when the obverse detail is almost gone.
The obverse would grade about G-4 IMO while the reverse is about Fair. The coin has been cleaned or burnished, probably to remove active corrosion. If it were my coin I would consider sending it to NCS for conservation to arrest any further corrosion, and for authentication. They would slab it with Good or AG detail and note the cleaning defect on the label. If genuine the coin will be worth well over $1000; the strong obverse may attract much higher bids if put on auction.
I wouldn't mind having this problem!
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I think if genuine this would grade a full G-4. From what I've seen, TPGs seem to be quite lax both in terms of detail and level of corrosion for this coin type. It will probably still be labeled corroded, but it looks pretty nice compared to others I've seen. I'm not sure if it's cleaned from these photos, could just be glare. I'd think it would be worth multiple thousands if genuine.
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The strength of the reverse chain versus the almost unreadable text around it has me suspect. Just my first impression on the question of wear.
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Questionable authenticity wear pattern and details don't seem quite right. Worth a trip to a TPG since these are so valuable but don't get your hopes too high. |
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Jaobler and Fenton, that's why I went...Hmmmm.
I have never seen one with this kind of obverse and reverse wear pattern.
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Here's a real one...   |
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She's pretty!
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Nice to see a side-by-side!  The first thing I look at on a coin is the date. I was curious about the shape of digit punches for this year, so I looked for different dates on certified chain cents. I'm sure there are more variations in position/spacing than I found. While it might not mean anything, I couldn't find a "9" with such a small upper loop.  Edited by DVCollector
05/31/2011 8:35 pm
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And then there is the top of the 3 DV, the first thing I noticed. Does not look like any of these. Also, the 9 just looks wrong.
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Edited by vermontensium
05/31/2011 8:32 pm
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Posted 05/31/2011 06:22 am
