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A Coin Shop I Will Never Go Back To.

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 Posted 07/18/2011  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Along side fraud, yes, I think Grand Theft may come into play here (if he stole over $400 from you, which he did basically)
Penal codes vary from State to State.
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 Posted 07/18/2011  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sharpbfast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just read all three pages of this thread. I read when he first posted this and commented how messed up this world is. But I think I've learned my lesson just from reading all of this. I hope this really works out for you and just because one person doesn't do something for you doesn't mean he's a horrible guy or business or whatever. Look at what happen to you, you were nice to this guy to do an transaction off of ebay and look you got screwed. It's just everyday people watching there back because it really is hard to trust people out there.

I hope you keep fighting and get this guy who thinks he can get away with this transaction.
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 Posted 07/19/2011  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have filed mail fraud with the USPS. I will let them take actions they see necessary.


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For a transaction outside of ebay, PayPal only sees a transfer of electronic funds for an undetermined purpose. For all they know, you sent the guy some money for his birthday ebay also allows for refunds, especially in the case of an item significantly not as described.


You can specify what a transaction is for in paypal. please see below.

Paypal payment echeck I sent:
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 Posted 07/20/2011  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One of the many, many reasons I avoid ebay and other one line situations. Way to many similar situations. Sort of a shame there is no way to find out just how many happen like this one all the time. Many people just accept the loss and move on. That only helps those that continue such situations.
As to the dealer's attitude, as already noted put yourself in his position. He just doesn't want to get involved with people he doesn't know. To many law suits from things like that. And although PayPal CLAIMS no one will find out who he is, remember all those hacker stories now going around. If a hacker can get into our government, what is so secretive about PayPal that they can't get into those too.
Since now found someone that will write that lettter, and if PayPal accepts that, let us know how it all works out.
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 Posted 07/23/2011  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IHPO8S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I dont blame the coin shop dealer for not getting involed. But there is a right way and a wrong way to say it. Were I live the dealers I deal with all have ebay stores as well as storefronts. 1 of the dealers is a big time guy who is hardly in his store. He is always at the major shows nice guy and good people working for him.

Hopefully you get your money back and the other guy gets a couple of nights with bubba/tyrone. LOL
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So if a member sells something on ebay what is to stop him from sending my IKEs? I don;t know if members know this or not but ebay and payPal are owned by the same company now. ebay just has a feedback system. Whenever you file a claim through ebay it sends you to payPal. I guess if I take your advice we should never do a transaction on CCF then.
I can actually answer this question because I have had to deal with ebay on this situation before. I purchased an electronic item and when it got here it looked legit (kind of) but I already knew this item was very heavily counterfeited and there were pictures of the difference in packaging and other accessory items. So when I got the item I found they were actually fake. I filed a claim with ebay and the seller responded that they were not fake and that he had proof that he sent them out and had delivery confirmation they were received so my claim was with ebay itself not with the seller any longer. ebay wanted me to get a written statement from a retailer that sells the item or some "expert" that these were in fact fake and once I did provide them this information ebay gave me my money back under their "buyer protection plan". The way the ebay representative described it on the phone as I was talking to him is it was part of their protection plan that would be paying me back, they would not get their money back from the seller because he had the proof they required him to have even though the dispute wasn't that I didn't receive it
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