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Bedrock of the Community
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Well it is not mine. Is this the coin you are thinking of?  This one is a rotating disintegrating die cap. Edited by coop
07/25/2011 4:50 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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How it is done.
take a 1943 steel cent and pound it into a soft brass plate. This creates an incuse image (die)of the obverse of a 1943 cent. Then put the 1940 cent into that die and pound on it. The brass die will cause the raised image of parts of the 1943 cent to appear on the 1940 cent, but since the die is about the same hardness as the 1940 cent, the 1940 cent will also transfer some of its image to the brass die and not crush the design on the cent. There used to be a lot of these done with 1942 and 1944 cents.
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Pillar of the Community
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This fellow's been shopping this coin around to various sites and experts. When he hears an answer he doesn't like, he goes somewhere else. In any case, I informed him some time ago that the extra date was applied by a fake die of relatively soft consistency. Many of you have provided the same answer.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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@coop: No, though that coin is great too!
I'm certain I must have dreamt it, because I couldn't find it with any amount of searching, and I trust your experience if you say there isn't any such coin. The image in my head is of a coin with LIBERTY reversed on multiple places on the reverse of the coin, and then both the memorial and a twice-reversed LIBERTY visible on the obverse.
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Why are some of you so afraid if a person gets different opinion. no one has addressed the reverse. Why would someone go to all that trouble to alter a coin and do such a bad job?  |
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Well, you've already gotten opinions from the best in the business,it's an altered coin. As to why somebody did something you don't understand...you'll have to find that person and ask them...everything else is speculation and really not worth the time. Not being mean, that's just the way it is.  |
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no one has addressed the reverse. Actually, I think most of us saw the reverse--it just confirms what Mike Diamond and others said already. This is one of those "case closed" scenarios.  |
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Why would someone go to all that trouble to alter a coin and do such a bad job? it fooled you didnt it? |
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Quote "No one has addressed the reverse"
Please Refer to my second post in this thread concerning the reverse.
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A 1943-D(?) die was made by someone that might have wanted to fake a copper '43-D. It may not have worked as they wanted, so they might have used the die to make this "error" coin. We can see heavy damage on the rims where the fake die was pressed against the 1940 cent on the obverse and reverse. The only thing I can't say for sure, is what mint mark is on the faked die. The coin has also been damaged so that it is no longer round and you can see that the damaged area extends well below the area of the die. The other fact is that both the obverse and reverse were damaged by an obverse die. That would account for both the obverse and reverse being damaged along the rim, the flattened wheat and letters and the damage below the area of the die. I did 2 overlays in Photo Shop to show the altered details, the fact that the coin is no longer round and the damage that was caused by the extra metal used to make the 1943-D(?) obverse die.   Why would a 1943-D obverse die be used on both sides of a 1940 cent after 3 years time? The mint didn't do this. It's Post Mint Damage caused by a faked 1943 die. If you want all the details, you would have to trace it back to the person that did it. This is my opinion only, but it does not match any error coin made by the mint ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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Great overlays Yokozuna!  It helps me see how the makeshift "die" was impressed on both sides, and the "anvil" had some irregularities that transferred to the coin. |
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Excellent. Will you look at the nose on the altered coin and compare it with any other non altered coin. There is a big difference.
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Another question. Where is the other parts of Lincoln on the Obverse, and where is the date on the revere. This is a great forum. I enjoy it.
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