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1945 Mercury Dime

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 Posted 12/01/2006  2:49 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Heres one for everyone to think and comment about !!

1945-Mercury-Dime


I have an opinion from an expert ,,but I just cant help dis agreeing with it !!

Rick
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 Posted 12/01/2006  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add texasmick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not positive, but I believe that's a 1946 retooled to look like a 1945.

Very rare!
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 Posted 12/01/2006  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stmpcol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doubling at the bottom of 1, inside loop of 9, on top of 4 and all around the 5. If that were my coin I'd have to say someone at the mint got a little frisky in 45 and over stamped a 1916.
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 Posted 12/02/2006  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow...those are very imaginative answers.

Mine is that it's a normal 1945 dime with a little bit of Die Deterioration Doubling on the 5.

So, what do you see, Rick?
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Hi Coppercoins

Im Glad that you asked ,,

Because your answer is the same as coneca's,, although I could never get an explaination of the reverse curve inside the lower loop of the 5 .

Perhaps it is the novice in me but until I have a firm understanding of how that can occur on Deterioration doubling ? My opinion is that I dont know .

I would like to believe that the die was mis punched with an 8 and then partially polished out and repunched correctly as a 5. However I'm realistic enough to know that the odds of that are fairly astronomical.

Rick

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 Posted 12/02/2006  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add texasmick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for playing around, Rick--you did ask a serious question.

I don't have the slightest idea what deterioration doubling is, so I'm in no position to comment.

But I agree with you that whatever is under the 5 looks like something other than a 5.
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 Posted 12/02/2006  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Texas

No problem ,, I have never been one to refuse a little fun !! This dime drove me nuts for a month or so, and then I sent images to coneca,, the answer was anything but firm ,, up until my computer crashed I had a copy of the email, but I never got an answer to the reverse loop question,, which is why up to today I have to dis agree.

all I need to understand is how the die can produce a negative curve and I will be happy to accept the answer.

Rick
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12/02/2006 10:27 am
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quote:
Originally posted by Metalman

Texas

No problem ,, I have never been one to refuse a little fun !! This dime drove me nuts for a month or so, and then I sent images to coneca,, the answer was anything but firm ,, up until my computer crashed I had a copy of the email, but I never got an answer to the reverse loop question,, which is why up to today I have to dis agree.

all I need to understand is how the die can produce a negative curve and I will be happy to accept the answer.

Rick

I have one just like it maybe you can dug up more than I have, I also had a 44-d with the same type d/d? and it sold on ebay for 23.76 so I do not know I hope we both find out more about this
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The 4 is the only thing that looks funny to me about the whole pic.
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 Posted 12/04/2006  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see any negative curve on the coin, sorry. A number of times Die Deterioration Doubling can take on some odd shapes. Your 'curve' could also be an extremely worn die gouge that just looks like a hubbed curve. Lots of things could cause something like this other than the highly unlikely scenario you posted.
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 Posted 12/04/2006  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok then ,, I guess I accept that it is deterioration ,, and keep looking .

Thanks Coppercoins.

Rick
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 Posted 12/12/2006  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gusp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yikes. Enough ta keep ya thinking. Just a wild guess. They made a lot of dimes in 1945. I think that they were practicing for the garbage they released some few years later, as witnessed by nickel production in the fiftys and later. In all probability, I would guess that this die suffered a combination of die chip erosion damage coupled with die polish doubling. Rather interesting combination, but perhaps the most likely explanation. Sometimes these combinations lead to rather extrodinary results. Then, there is also the possibility that it is also a somewhat doubled date. Interesting coin. What did Coneca say?... Fun anyways. I would keep it if for no other reason than to share and teach others, or perhaps, just to mess with everybody. Thanx for sharing and perhaps,... messing. Gusp
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