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1944-D Walker - Hand Engraved Initials

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 Posted 05/08/2018  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Kind of coin I wish I had
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 Posted 05/08/2018  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
Nice find!
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 Posted 05/08/2018  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
OK - some advice needed here.

It would be very hard to let this one go, but seeing the replies, my suspicions are confirmed that this one might sell for a very high price if I play the slab to sell game.

Opinions? Does it look to be high enough on the MS scale to take off at an auction?

I ask b/c this one does stand out like a sore thumb in the normally circulated group I have, and she might enable me to get the coveted 1921-D in grade other than G or AG.

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 Posted 05/08/2018  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
I was just about to ask if it would come back from a TPG as Damaged - Graffiti. Whether others think so might influence your slabbing decision. It's a beautiful coin regardless.
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 Posted 05/08/2018  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
No, this is an actual known variety: FS-901

http://varietyvista.com/10%20Walkin...4DRED001.htm

I have found this a hard to find variety even when comparing with the 46 DDR.

Or am I totally off base with what you meant by graffiti?
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 Posted 05/08/2018  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
Sorry, my bad, I was not aware of this variety and for some reason I took "very hard to find hand engraved initials variety" as hyperbole. sel_691's comment contributed to me thinking it was done outside the mint, like a counterstamp. This http://www.error-ref.com/re-engrave...ing_liberty/ says it was done with a "very small chisel-like implement".
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 Posted 05/08/2018  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
I can see how that was easy enough to do


I know there are a lot of varieties from different series out there I have no idea about. it would have been better if I had posted the FS-901 with this to begin with.
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 Posted 05/08/2018  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list

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Opinions? Does it look to be high enough on the MS scale to take off at an auction?


I found one in PCGS MS-66 on the CU bst board. The asking price was $250, it did not sell.
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 Posted 05/08/2018  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list
Those are the designer's initial and were part of the die.
Adolph Weinman (AW).
In other words they were struck that way by the Mint.

The variety is the 50¢ pieces without the initials.
This was caused by overzealous die polishing and to the best of my knowledge are only missing on the 1941 proofs.
I know this because I was born in 1941 and have a full set of high grade 1941 coins including both 50¢ types.
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 Posted 05/08/2018  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
@Kanga

Most of the 44-Ds have a typical AW on them.

From Heritage auctions:

1944-D-Walker---Hand-Engraved-Initials

Please also see the varietyvista.com link above that shows the FS-901 designation.
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 Posted 05/08/2018  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
Thanks for my new knowledge of the day. For what it's worth, this MS66 https://coins.ha.com/itm/walking-li...bnail-071515 sold for $282 (including BP) in 2015. I thought this was interesting:
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The discoverer of this interesting and seldom-encountered variety was Heritage cataloger Brian Koller, who wrote the cover story announcing the discovery that appeared in the February 2, 2004 issue of Coin World.
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 Posted 05/09/2018  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list
According to the PCGS price guide, a 1944-D FS-901 in MS-65 has a value of $185. Enjoy the piece for what it is.
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 Posted 05/09/2018  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list
MS-67's have gone for $800-$900 on Heritage. MS-67+/68 have pulled down big bucks at Heritage.

I don't think this one would reach a 67 with the hits on her thigh, hand, and a few minor ones on the eagle, too.

It's a beautiful coin!
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05/09/2018 12:12 am
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 Posted 05/09/2018  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
@kbbpll - thanks for the info. Interesting.

After thinking more I went on Heritage and was surprised by some of the prices. But the more I think about it, the more I know I would regret if I sold her anyway.

I think my grandkids will eventually be the ones figuring out what to do with her!

How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash?
Download and read: Grading the graders
Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves
https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2
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