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1940 S Lincoln Wheat Cent - Dent In Date For Discussion

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I have personally seen at least two dozen coins from this date with the dented 0 in the date. But whenever one is posted here most everyone calls it PMD and maybe a Gumball Machine coin (of which I have also seen many). But this thing is tucked in below rim height, and seems remarkably common on this date.

So I had been looking for a solid uncirculated coin showing this feature, and here it is. This just doesn't look like PMD with no obvious slide marks plus it's a pretty nice MS grade coin so hasn't been mishandled or put in any machines. The only feature counter to it being some kind of die issue is that the "0" does appear a bit raised to the east, which would happen if the number was pushed.

Anyway, here is a top example of a type of anomaly we see every once in a while on the board and just opening it up for discussion.

1940-S Lincoln Wheat cent - dent in "0" of date


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All I can say is you can see the spot on the coin where the zero use to be if it was being minted the way your coin looks with the zero pushed a little I don't think you would see the spot in the lower right where the zero should be
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After looking at the second close up there is something vary odd about the zero in question if there was a second coin with same marks there may be further discussion just don't know how that could have happened at the mint but nothing is impossible
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In the full date photo I see die flow lines extending from the field into the outline of the zero. If that area was scraped or pushed you shouldn't see that. Die issue imo. I like the toning on this coin.
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Your coin makes me curious to learn about cladding and historical composition changes. Also how the various special designs are created such as satin finishes, high reliefs, etc.
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Given the MS+ condition of the coin and the otherwise pristine nature of the 0, I'm thinking die issue--not a trip through an unforgiving vending machine. Good photos.
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At first I thought I could see out of round, inside the zero but I think it's just a visual, where it's missing part of the outer design. I'm in with something having been in the die, that blocked a full strike.
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Agree this is likely a die issue.
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Do you have other examples of this date with a sliced 0 in the exact same location?
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It could just a damaged area. Maybe an issue with a counting machine. Note it is parallel to the rim. Back in that way, they did have nickel vending machines. But if it is incuse, then it is probably damage and the angle looks similar to the damaged angle of a coin vending machine issue.
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Aaaand there's the bubble gum machine again. I know those can push metal on coins, but honestly thought this MS coins would put that to rest for this particular issue. I was wrong.
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Darn it. I wanted it to be something about how they used a special kind of cladding that year for some reason, and it was not as strong as regular cladding, so the bad cladding increased the liklihood of damage.
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Wheat cents are not clad coins.
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Quote:
Wheat cents are not clad coins.


Oh.

It looks clad?
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Seriously tho, it looks like a thin layer over the zero to me anyway.
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given how pristine this coin is, I'm leaning toward a die issue, another 40S with the same 0 anomaly would rest the c ASE
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