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 Posted 04/24/2015  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
All I worry about is the prices that we realize and as stated we are pretty happy with our current bottom line. Price guides and comparisons with prices realized will drive one nuts. Trouble is price guides do not sell coins people do. There is still lots happening out there at auctions and coin shows. Attend a few and try buying some rarities and in the grade pieces. Guess what they are still going to cost real money. We just ignore the doom and gloom and carry on! The coin business is far from being dead, in fact it is far from being even sick.
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 Posted 04/24/2015  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
"Buy in gloom and sell in doom"
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 Posted 04/24/2015  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list
I was watching coins during the live auction on Heritage the other night. A run of Jeffersons was going for way below all the guides listed in the auction - PCGS, Numismedia, Greysheet, etc. Like greyshet would be $185 and these were going for $50. But then the bust Half Dimes came next and those were going for right at the guide price. So I think it depends. Older classic coins seem to be holding value pretty well; more modern stuff not so much.
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 Posted 04/24/2015  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
I agree with acloco

I have seen the prices of some key date coins trending
down. I know I bought my XF 1909S vdb a few years ago,
and recently I have seen AU coins, I could have bought for
less than I paid for the XF.

I have been watching 1914D,s, same thing I can buy a VF
for what I paid for a Fine.

If the prices keep trending down, I can see myself
upgrading some of my keys.

Also with silver down from it's high, I feel it is
a good time to cherry pick the 90% silver buckets
and the Morgan dollar bins. The VF/XF Mercury and Walkers
seem like a very good deal right now.
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 Posted 04/25/2015  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
I go to about 2 to 4 coin shows a Month. There the prices are sort of always either the same or up. Just remember what you see on the internet may not be real. And also remember on the internet you pay stuff like insurances, postage, handling, etc. Lost in mail, wrong coins sent, not what you saw in their photos, etc. Just can't trust the coins on the internet.
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 Posted 04/25/2015  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list
I am not speaking of "internet" coins. There is an auction that started on Thursday....and this is reported by more than one source, that were there....in person.

Yes, there are "wonder" coins, that even a person with more than modest means, could not afford.
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 Posted 04/28/2015  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoldenIslesCoins to your friends list
Collectors will Never leave the coin market. But they will buy coins less often if the prices get too high to keep buying. Now with some coins going down in value it is a great time to pick up some of those key dates !!
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 Posted 04/28/2015  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
I have to disagree with you GoldenIsles... collectors do leave the market.. unfortunately people die. And this hobby has a very large following by some people that are a lot older than myself.

At my local coin club meeting I don't think there was anyone under the age of 40 with the exception of myself and the mean age of the group would've been closer to 65-68 yrs old.

I love how governement mints to commemorative pieces... as I believe that draws in people to coin collecting that wouldn't normally find interest. But I think if you were to look at the statistics of population based on age for coin collecting.. the graph would probably look like a diagram of a comet (but going up) with the long tail of the comet being collectors in their early years that majority of collectors being quite a bit older...
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 Posted 04/28/2015  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list

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Hoarders, stackers, flippers ..... are not collectors.


, however, if you say that in the Canadian NCLT forum, all heck breaks loose...

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 Posted 04/29/2015  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Afab67 to your friends list
I wonder, do more people get into this hobby as they get older, or are the numbers of collectors going to shrink because not as many young people are getting into the hobby? I wonder.
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 Posted 04/29/2015  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add publius to your friends list
All the old coin collectors I know started collecting in their youth.
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 Posted 04/29/2015  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list
I never left the market, nor do I intend to. I buy and sell frequently. Some would say because I sell, I am not a true collector. Yet, I'll buy an MS to upgrade, and sell mu AU. I've upgraded some slots from MS 63, to MS 66, one step at a time. It could be equally argued that if you don't upgrade, you aren't a true collector. There is a philosophy for everyone.
When prices go up or down 20%, I am not fully affected by the change, only by 20% of the differential in the upgrade.
I am certainly not a dealer, as I generally show a loss after expenses. And if I considered time spent, I'd be better off walking the highway for aluminum cans.
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 Posted 04/29/2015  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brian686 to your friends list

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however, if you say that in the Canadian NCLT forum, all heck breaks loose...

Which is ironic as Canadians in general are more reserved and friendlier than us Americans...
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 Posted 04/29/2015  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
That means that more dealers may go out of business OR prices will stay the same. I don't think that dealers would just lower the price of all of their stock just because a collector says a book says so. Why take a hit like that? Everyone has a bottom line and it's the collectors who have the responsibility to pay the price - too much haggling is not good. A little bit of competition is okay but not to the point that an already dying business goes kaput over it. Good for collectors in the short term but how many dealers will put up with it before they close shop?
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