1859 Canadian Large Cents From The Okiecoiner Collection - Page 3

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Author	Replies: 45 / Views: 4,765	Page: of 3

Phil310 Pillar of the Community United States 1101 Posts	Posted 09/03/2021 11:09 pm Thanks 1960NYGiants for the link and info. I love the P1 reverse die that you discovered with the re-punched N in CENT. I'm running late today posting another of Okiecoiner's coins. I really like this coin. I'll let everyone try to figure this one out. The dirt is almost covering up an important marker. Report this Post to the Staff
fourmack Pillar of the Community New Zealand 1679 Posts	Posted 09/04/2021 12:12 am Would that be 124 Cheers Don Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut. "Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more Report this Post to the Staff
Phil310 Pillar of the Community United States 1101 Posts	Posted 09/04/2021 07:50 am You're close Don. Check the reverse again. Report this Post to the Staff
fourmack Pillar of the Community New Zealand 1679 Posts	Posted 09/04/2021 5:19 pm So must be 121 Cheers Don Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut. "Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more Report this Post to the Staff
Phil310 Pillar of the Community United States 1101 Posts	Posted 09/04/2021 10:24 pm Yes, 121 (39+E40). Another tough die pair to find. This one is an early die state for both the obverse and reverse dies with some nice die clogs on the obverse. Report this Post to the Staff
Phil310 Pillar of the Community United States 1101 Posts	Posted 09/06/2021 2:30 pm Here is one with a nicely re-punched 1 in the date, Haxby PC59-69 (Obverse 27 + Reverse E28). Obverse. Die crack to C of CANADA. Reverse. Re-punched 1. Die crack to Leaf 14. Report this Post to the Staff
Phil310 Pillar of the Community United States 1101 Posts	Posted 09/08/2021 3:48 pm Haxby PC59-36. Obverse 20 + Reverse E22. This reverse often has a weak 5 from a clogged die. This is another tough die pair in nice condition! Obverse. Die crack at C of CANADA. Reverse. Weak 5 and Die cracks at leaves 6 and 8. Report this Post to the Staff
Phil310 Pillar of the Community United States 1101 Posts	Posted 09/18/2021 10:20 am More photographs done now. Here is a Late state PC59-247 (Obverse 82 + Reverse P20). This has to be near terminal state for the P20. I've never seen one like this before. Does anyone else have one with the cracks at leaves 9-12? Die cracks at leaves 9-12 Die crack at leaf 3. Die crack and collapse at leaf 6. Report this Post to the Staff
1960NYGiants Pillar of the Community United States 667 Posts	Posted 09/18/2021 10:56 am Really nice example. Mine is no where near that broken. LM of RCNA Member of CATC Report this Post to the Staff
Phil310 Pillar of the Community United States 1101 Posts	Posted 09/20/2021 6:00 pm The next coin from Bill's collection is Haxby PC59-237 (Obverse 77a + Reverse P15c). The four die pairs associated with Obverse 77a are some of my favorites. The P15c is the third reverse and has a very nice die crack from leaf 14 to leaf 16. The obverse also has a very recognizable die crack at the G of GRATIA. The G is actually nicely re-punched, but the die crack tends to hide the re-punching. Only very early states of 77a paired with the first reverse P15a are missing the die crack. All 4 die pairs are scarce. This one is a nice example. Report this Post to the Staff
Phil310 Pillar of the Community United States 1101 Posts	Posted 09/22/2021 9:12 pm This next one is Haxby PC59-236 (Obverse 77a + Reverse P15b). This reverse has one of the nicest re-punched 9's I think, but has not been mentioned much on this forum. This is another very scarce die pair. This 9 reminds me a little of the one on the DP9 #2. Report this Post to the Staff
okiecoiner Pillar of the Community Canada 5589 Posts	Posted 09/23/2021 07:23 am I thought that there were much better examples of this Reverse in the stuff that I sent. It/they would have been in holders. Are the coins that I sent you and that you have posted here just the ones that were not in holders with writing? BTW, for you die trackers, any of these die pairs could be available, especially if they were what I considered "vanilla" coins with no real nicely visible variety. Report this Post to the Staff
Phil310 Pillar of the Community United States 1101 Posts	Posted 09/23/2021 10:43 am Bill, this is the only example of this die pair in your coins. It isn't the same reverse die as the DP9 #2 which you have a number of, it just looks like it. You actually had this one labeled as the DP9 #2 which is Haxby Obverse G4 + Reverse E3a, but this coin is Haxby Obverse 77a + Reverse P15b and is much scarcer. Many of the coins I have photographed were from your holders with writing. Report this Post to the Staff
okiecoiner Pillar of the Community Canada 5589 Posts	Posted 09/23/2021 11:39 am To me, the 9 looks like the 9 on p284 of the 2011 variety section, but the other Rev markers aren't there. Since all the 9's were hand-punched and it took 2-4 whacks to complete the die, there are probably lots of 9's that look like that on different dies with different other markers. It's why I'm not a die-tracker, just a variety guy who likes visible offsets. The 9 also looks like those on p 283 or 285, but the 285 is a Zoell R2c that I have alot of. I'm pretty sure that there are more 9's like this one in what I sent and in better shape at the lower left upper loop and the bottom of the tongue. Report this Post to the Staff
Phil310 Pillar of the Community United States 1101 Posts	Posted 09/25/2021 08:58 am With 223 known reverse dies, there are many that look alike in a particular area of the die like the date or stem to leaf 9. The Haxby catalog is not just for die trackers. It is also for variety collectors who need to confirm which variety it is. Many times the only way to do that is to look at all of the other markers on both sides of the coin including determining the reverse die group and die states of both obverse and reverse. Reverse die P15b is a great example of this, because of the similarity of the 9 to other dies. But using the Haxby catalog it is an easy attribution because of the obverse die crack to the G of GRATIA. Here's one of the varieties I know you like Bill. Haxby PC59-172 (obverse 48 + reverse J7f). This is also listed in the 2011 Charlton on page 295. A boldly re-punched 1 of the date and some re-punching on the 5 as well. Report this Post to the Staff
	Replies: 45 / Views: 4,765	Page: of 3

First Page

Previous Page Last 15 Replies

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

All Forums Category: Canadian Coins and Currency Forums Forum: Canadian Variety and Error Coins

Silver Gold Bull US is the United States leading bullion dealer. We deliver gold coins, gold bars, silver coins, silver bars and precious metals to your door. Order today!

The First Dollar, your premier source for bullion and rare coins. See our bullion list on the site and the coin inventory on ebay.

View Last 100 New Topics

View Last 100 Active Topics

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us | Advertise Here | Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum

It took 0.45 seconds to rattle this change.