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1967 Jefferson Nickel You Vs. NGC

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 Posted 02/18/2025  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I'll guess MS-65. Looks like a Business Strike to me.
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 Posted 02/18/2025  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Freespeech57 to your friends list
Very poor strike on the reverse. A lot of chatter on both obverse and reverse, however not in the fields. Given that the fields are so sharp, I would grade 64/65.
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 Posted 02/18/2025  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
Looks like Tom had his wisdom teeth pulled....
65 to me
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 Posted 02/19/2025  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfeed to your friends list
I think it's a SMS, but anxious to see what NCG had to say..
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 Posted 02/19/2025  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Looks like a terrible strike but probably an MS piece. With that strike and the reverse hits my guess is MS65. The huge images (on my screen) are 10x larger than would be used for grading. My guess would be business strike as well.
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 Posted 02/19/2025  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Definitely a business strike. Radial flow is evident on the reverse, particularly amid TICE below the building foundation. Also the start of PIDT curving above both building wing roofs and below FIVE CENTS. Lousy definition on the portico roof and semicircular window, big bag mark right in the doorway. Steps are mangled on the die.

Polishing or Die Deterioration is evident on the obverse facial profile, even on the eye. I would guess polishing because the cravat is almost gone, reduced to a little knob. Bag mark right on the ear and a scrape right behind the eye. Many little rim dings as well. The lettering is still well defined on both faces.

Most years, I think that would grade as an MS65 coin. For 1967-and because you implied that we might be outraged by the grade—I would expect something suitably shocking like MS66+. Maybe it has spectacular luster in hand.
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 Posted 02/20/2025  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainkurt to your friends list
Brandmeister,
Your nickel evaluations are always on point! It was the excellent luster on this coin that had me thinking it was mislabeled as a business strike.


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Radial flow is evident on the reverse, particularly amid TICE below the building foundation. Also the start of PIDT curving above both building wing roofs and below FIVE CENTS.


Great diagnostics to look for when trying to decipher a business strike! Die polishing/deterioration seems to be the issue with the 1960's Jeffersons. What a horrible decade for the nickel.

I think you are right on with the MS65 grade. I only see a couple MS66's in PCGS slabs that have this many bag marks.

Overall, I am happy at $17 shipped! I think it was priced as an SMS. There are not too many 1967's available that look this great in hand for under $100.

Here is a PCGS MS66 that is similar.
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 Posted 02/20/2025  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfeed to your friends list
Can I use this post to ask a possible dumb question? Where there any proof strike nickels in 1967 or were there just business and SMS? Thanks
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 Posted 02/20/2025  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfeed to your friends list
Sorry..I withdraw the question!!
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 Posted 02/20/2025  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
For $17 shipped, that is a superb coin and grade! Major score on that deal, congrats. =)
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 Posted 02/21/2025  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list
In my experience, it's unusual to find a NGC graded MS Jefferson that ISN'T MS66.

The one you posted is very nice for 1967.
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 Posted 02/21/2025  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainkurt to your friends list

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In my experience, it's unusual to find a NGC graded MS Jefferson that ISN'T MS66.


With twice the population of MS66 from NGC compared to PCGS, oh, I see what you did there
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 Posted 02/21/2025  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list
NGC got it right !
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 Posted 02/21/2025  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Aye, remarkable!
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 Posted 02/24/2025  06:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
missed the grade call but I would have put it a 65 no FS
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